[Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles

Charlie Smith charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org
Mon Jan 6 00:18:55 EST 2003


Earlier, Shalyn Shourds wrote:
>
>     Got one on the table and I keep charging up the paddles, but it's
> still dead.  1965 190Dc Mercedes.  Sorry it's not a VW, but I just
> couldn't stand the thought of asking people who weren't quite as smart
> or good looking.  And, I figure it's still relevant.
>     Car sat for about 10 years, sporadically started, probably last time
> was 4 years ago.  I haul it 1000 miles to Texas to work on it and I
> absolutely cannot get it to start.  I have it cranking full speed, I
> have all the glow plugs working, the intake's off the car so it's not a
> problem, I got the mouse nest and mud dauber's nest out of the exhaust
> (I hope), I have at least some fuel to the injectors and even bypassed
> the tank in favor of a small can of fresh fuel.  Timing should still be
> on since it's not been worked on since it was parked, running.  I have
> it to where one cylinder will sort of fire while the glow plugs are
> still very hot, and there's a pretty impressive cloud of white Diesel
> smoke in the garage.

White smoke is unburned fuel, from one (or more) cylinder not firing.

>  Looks like one of those scenes in the Highlander
> movie where they're fighting in the misty moors.  But, that's all I can
> get.  Any good ideas out there of what can get gummed up if you let a
> car sit too long?  I'd love to just haul it behind a truck till it
> started, but the clutch system is leaking and I don't have a truck
> handy.  Oh, and it won't light off of WD-40 sprayed in the intake.
>
> All I can think of is that maybe the injectors got gummed up, or someone
> mentioned that maybe the rings stuck, a possibility that I'm hoping is
> not the case.

If nothing else works, pull the injectors and do a compression test.
All cylinders should be somewhere close +/- 10% at most.  While they
are out, test the spray pattern of the injectors.  If you don't have
good atomization the sprayed fuel will be very hard to ignite.

>
> For some VW content, if you idle a 1.6TD with the BIG alternator for a
> long time charging another car's battery over and over again, does that
> really use up some fuel?  Cause my economy has really been down since I
> brought the other car down.

The prolonged running has to use some fuel.  How much and how long you've
run it is hard to guess from what you wrote.

Since I'm new to this list, I'll add as background that I've had a half
dozen VW diesels in the past, including putting aftermarket turbos on
a couple of them.  :-)   If anybody knows somebody looking, I've got
a good '82 Audi 2.0L 5 cyl diesel sitting in the garage that needs a
new home.

    - Charlie


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