[Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles

Sandy Cameron scameron at compmore.net
Mon Jan 6 11:51:01 EST 2003


Big cloud of white smoke means fueling is ok.
Since cam and pump are chain driven, no question about timing.
Long parking interval allows oil to drain away from rings = no compression.
Old worn engine, same thing. All adds up.
(why it cranks so easy)

Simmilar problems here with an 85 A2 last week. Owner had been trying to
crank it too long, and flooded the cylinders with fuel, washing down the
lube oil, reducing compression below the ignition point.
BEST solution is a tow start.

Other methods like squirting lube oil into intake to seal rings can be
hazardous to your health, and the engine's. Better fix the clutch and tow it
(high, 4th gear to avoid tranny tooth extraction).

If it's automatic (ugh) you will have to get a LITTLE 20w50 into each
cylinder to get it started. (You could also stick your fuel tubes into a can
of auto transmission oil and try to start it on that.

Sandy


At 10:32 PM 1/5/03 -0600, you wrote:
>    Got one on the table and I keep charging up the paddles, but it's
>still dead.  1965 190Dc Mercedes.  Sorry it's not a VW, but I just
>couldn't stand the thought of asking people who weren't quite as smart
>or good looking.  And, I figure it's still relevant.
>    Car sat for about 10 years, sporadically started, probably last time
>was 4 years ago.  I haul it 1000 miles to Texas to work on it and I
>absolutely cannot get it to start.  I have it cranking full speed, I
>have all the glow plugs working, the intake's off the car so it's not a
>problem, I got the mouse nest and mud dauber's nest out of the exhaust
>(I hope), I have at least some fuel to the injectors and even bypassed
>the tank in favor of a small can of fresh fuel.  Timing should still be
>on since it's not been worked on since it was parked, running.  I have
>it to where one cylinder will sort of fire while the glow plugs are
>still very hot, and there's a pretty impressive cloud of white Diesel
>smoke in the garage.  Looks like one of those scenes in the Highlander
>movie where they're fighting in the misty moors.  But, that's all I can
>get.  Any good ideas out there of what can get gummed up if you let a
>car sit too long?  I'd love to just haul it behind a truck till it
>started, but the clutch system is leaking and I don't have a truck
>handy.  Oh, and it won't light off of WD-40 sprayed in the intake.
>
>All I can think of is that maybe the injectors got gummed up, or someone
>mentioned that maybe the rings stuck, a possibility that I'm hoping is
>not the case.
>
>For some VW content, if you idle a 1.6TD with the BIG alternator for a
>long time charging another car's battery over and over again, does that
>really use up some fuel?  Cause my economy has really been down since I
>brought the other car down.
>
>Thanks
>
>-Shalyn
>
>-85 Jetta TD
>-65 MB 190 Dc, Job's wife
>
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