[Vwdiesel] Fuel hose routing help.

Drew MacPherson drew at scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca
Sat Mar 1 23:31:19 EST 2003


Does it look like this?

http://scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca/gtd/jeg-89-1-30-43-20.JPG

If so, then it's an altitude corrector - I've never seen one on a Canadian
model before (at least not in Ontario.)  Did your car come from  the West
coast originally?

Drew


On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Jeff Rakus wrote:

> Well it's pretty grime coated in there, but yes there is a connection on a
> switch at the top of the thing. I think it could be a altitude compensation
> of some sort ? I'll look for a parts number.  It has  a thin hose out the
> bottom from a cylindrical
> can below a double  pie tin shaped thing on the top where the switch is
> attached.  I'll let everyone know what happens
> after I get the hoses re-routed. Tnx again,
> Jeff
>
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> It's amazing how people can mess things up sometimes...  It may be
> worthwhile to replace the filter with a new one (you can reuse the
> pre-heat valve if it is not cracked.)  When redoing the connection, make
> sure they're clean (esp. the feeder to the pump) and tight.  I bought a
> TDI-style inlet barb for my pump - that allos a 5"16 fuel line to be
> clamped onto it - you can then run that back to the filter if the stock
> line is damaged  LMK if you need part numbers.
>
> I'm not sure about the device you're describing next to the filter - does
> it have any wires connected to it?  Part numbers visible?
>
> I work in Guelph and live north of Mount Forest.
>
> Drew
>
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Jeff Rakus wrote:
>
>  > Hello! thanks for your help!
>  > With the help of the diagram you sent I am now able to put things in
> order.
>  > What I have found out was that whomever  put the engine in had the the
> main
>  > fuel line running into the banjo fitting
>  > #11 on the pump. The return line was connected to the input of the of the
>  > filter and the out put of the filter was connected to the fitting (#12)
> on
>  > the top of the pump! The pre-heater was not connected at all! So my
> concern
>  > now is
>  > if any junk has gotten into the pump or maybe wax?  It was acting as
> though
>  > it had a fuel line problem back when the weather was warmer (about 10or
> so
>  > C). Next to the filter is a device that looks like a barometeric cell of
>  > some sort that has a switch on it and a small hose coming out the bottom.
>  > The small hose is disconnected. How far are you from London?
>  > TIA Again, ~ Jeff
>  >
>  >
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>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ----Original Message Follows----
>  > From: Drew MacPherson <drew at scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>
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>  > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Fuel hose routing help.
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>  >
>  > Here's a snap from EPC for your year:
>  >
>  > http://scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca/gtd/JEG-89-2-01-68-00.JPG
>  >
>  > 89 uses a pre-heat valve in the filter - this re-circulates return line
>  > fuel in the filter below 5C or therabouts to help prevent waxing or
>  > gelling.
>  >
>  > The correct routing for models with pre-heat is:
>  >
>  > feed line from tank (this is the larger diameter pipe) to filter inlet.
>  > Filter outlet goes to pump inlet - banjo at lower right front of pump (11
>  > in picture)
>  >
>  > return line from pump (top of pump) goes to pre-heat valve on filter
>  > (arrow on vlave indicates correct flow)  Other end of valve is return
> line
>  > to tank (smaller pipe.)
>  >
>  > It sounds like someone has swapped your filter for one without preheat
>  > valve.  The routing is similar, except that the return from the pump goes
>  > straight into the return line to the back of the car (smaller pipe.)
>  >
>  > Leaks at the supply line allow air into the system, which will make for
>  > hard cranking, warm or cold.  Leaks at the return side can allow air to
>  > enter the system as well, especially if the factory check valves have
> been
>  > removed (A2/A3 only)
>  >
>  > HTH,
>  >
>  > Drew
>  >
>  > On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Jeff Rakus wrote:
>  >
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>  >  > Hi All,
>  >  >
>  >  > I need to know what the fuel hose routing should be on my '89 Jetta .
>  >  > There are two hoses from the back , one has a t fitting that is
> blocked
>  > off and
>  >  > it connects to the injector pump on the left lower side as you face
> the
>  > car.
>  >  > This hose seems to be wet with fuel near the pump. The other hose from
>  > the back
>  >  > goes into the filter and and from the output of the filter it goes
> into
>  > the top of
>  >  > the injector pump marked out. Since the engine has been replaced with
>  > what I
>  >  > believe is a older ~ '85 or '86 engine with the valve maint. sticker
> on
>  > the cover,
>  >  > Perhaps the hoses are incorrectly placed. It's been hard to start when
> it
>  > was cool
>  >  > and with the temp today in the midlin' 30's even with a fully charged
>  > battery it would not go.:~(
>  >  > So I await your verdict. The Bentley has no photo's of the hose
> routing.
>  >  > TIA Jeff
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