[Vwdiesel] Hagar Bashing --- ( answering James Hansen )

LBaird119 at aol.com LBaird119 at aol.com
Wed Apr 14 03:15:39 EDT 2004


So this model makes sense.  Very little about green power here makes any
sense, other than it being a way to milk the idealistic.  It annoys me
because there is so much opportunity to do this the right way, they just
seem to be discovering (exploiting) all the wrong ways at once.

  Dad's been kicking around the idea of going off grid when he builds a 
house at the beach (instead of the shack that's there now.)  Monetarily 
it about equals out to paying for power.  He just hates the idea of paying 
$25/month just for someone to read a meter with no or little change. 
A dehumidifier is all that's ever left on.   He'd rather just pay one lump 
and be done with it, no monthly bill.  They're very agreeable about 
buyback on power.  They're completely ignorant but want to do it 
so "whatever your PUD is doing should work for us."  Pretty much 
bring some minimal paperwork and tell them it's done to code, they'll 
put in the bi-way meter and that's that.  If it weren't for the meter charge 
he'd hook up just to sell back the excess.  Good place for a small wind 
charger.  Problem is it'd take a lot of power at todays prices, just to 
pay the meter charge.  We could bootleg it back through our neighbor 
though.  Wouldn't get anything but it'd cut her power bill and she's a 
great neighbor. 
  Someone here did/does write for homepower magazine don't they?  
They had a good article on "Guerilla" power generation.  Not doing it 
by the book because the book's such a hassle.

  In reference to coal power.  I remember our physics teacher told us 
there's more radiation released from a coal plant than a nuclear one. 
Due to the isotopes of carbon.  We almost had a bunch of nuke plants 
here but they defaulted on all but 1 1/2 of them due to cost overruns.  
Most were over 80% completed too.  Really stupid!  Most of the cost 
was done with.  Washington and Oregon would've been in a position to 
power nearly half of the country at reasonable rates.
     Loren


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