[Vwdiesel] TDC for Chuck

Fri Apr 30 13:39:42 EDT 2004

well, i have to disagree with a little here. after i
rebuilt my first engine in a vw vanagon i couldn't
find the timing mark on the injection pump sprocket so
i just marked it with a scribe when the crank mark was
where it was supposed to be. i forgot that it could be
a half turn off or right on. murphy's law i was half
turn off. (probably also why i couldn't find the mark.
i didn't know what to look for - had never had to find
one before.)

that engine started to run after only about 3 seconds
of cranking! (from having the whole fuel system apart
and a brand new engine. i still can't believe it 10
years later.) it ran smoothly and kept running. but it
smoked white like crazy. i didn't know any better and
figured maybe it was assembly lube and would go away
once the engine got broken in. car had NO power. but
it ran. once i found my problem many days and many
many hours troubleshooting later i was pretty
embarrased, but had a good running vw.

these darn things are EXTREMELY forgiving, in my
experience! so just cause it's off time is no reason
to think that it won't run. i think mine was about as
bad as possible, other than just shooting the fuel in
at the bottom of the exhaust stroke.

erik
--- James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:
> It's only supposed to go on one way Chuck.  Try
> assembling with the clutch
> disc out, you'll see what I mean. It's only supposed
> to go on, and sit flat
> in relation to the drive plate when on one way. All
> positions seem the same,
> but there is a difference if all is right.
> 
> Other than that, be more Holmesian.(as in
> Sherlock...)  Pop Valve cover off.
> Cam lobes on #1 point up at tdc. Use this or there
> is a notch on the
> driver's side of the injection pump sprocket. It is
> supposed to match the
> casting mold mark at the top of the pump to tell you
> if you are putting the
> belt on with the pump at TDC or a half turn out.
> (can be done both ways, but
> the engine only runs when done the right way).
> 
> You have the t-belt off as well?  then...
> Put the crank pulley on temporarily as well as the
> waterpump pulley.  Notch
> on the crank pulley rim lines up with the waterpump
> puley edge when viewed
> from the horizontal. (bottom edge of waterpump
> pulley)
> 
> Pop an injector (#1) and use a piece of light wire
> or some solid core solder
> to stick through tthe precup and into the combustion
> space to feel for the
> piston when it comes to the top of it's stroke.  Not
> exact, but  you really
> only need ballpark here, not within a degree...
> 
> Good reasons for putting engine at TDC and putting a
> centerpunch mark to
> reference to on the block after the transmission is
> off and flywheel is off.
> 
> You are doing the rear seal too, right?  Dont forget
> to loctite the bolts
> that go into the crank flange. Don't ever forget
> that, or the flywheel
> eventually becomes a lathe and parts off the
> transmission with spectacular
> results.
> -James
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com
> [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com]On
> > Behalf Of Chuck Carnohan
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:23 AM
> > To: TexasTDI; vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Rabbit droppings # 67.
> -----(starting da
> > bubblemachine )
> >
> >
> > Yeah, well Chris- in real life "you get what you
> work for".  Pay
> > attention.  Respect your elders!  Golden Rules for
> Happy Dubbing (and
> > other life's pursuits as well).  My grandmother
> had a saying that rings
> > true in so many applications:  "If you keep your
> fist closed so tightly
> > that nothing can fall out, nothing can get in
> either".  I must say, CJT
> > vs. HH make this forum much more entertaining and
> enlightening!  Thanks
> > guys.
> >
> > As one among the masses of the uniformed I have a
> question for you
> > all....  When an idiot takes the fly wheel off of
> a 1.6NA without noting
> > the aspect, how does this same fool get it back on
> where the timing mark
> > is as TDC?  I deserve the grief I receive for this
> one and it fully
> > exposes my novice-level of expertise (as if my
> previous entries haven't
> > already done that).  Thanks!
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TexasTDI [mailto:TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:12 PM
> > To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Rabbit droppings # 67.
> -----(starting da
> > bubblemachine )
> >
> >
> > "I am passionate about blottertest --- they work
> and do not cost."
> >
> > Ever hear the phrase, "You get what you pay for?"
> >
> > Christopher J. Thornton
> > 1991 VW Jetta 2 Door 1.6 Diesel - 241k miles
> > 2000 VW Golf 1.9TDI (turbo diesel) - 99k miles
> > Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500
> http://www.amsoil.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "H.Hagar" <h_hagar at prcn.org>
> > To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:46 PM
> > Subject: [Vwdiesel] Rabbit droppings # 67.
> -----(starting da bubble
> > machine )
> >
> >
> > I am passionate about blottertest --- they work
> and do not cost.
> > Likewise
> > I am
> > promoting the " Bubblemachine"     --- liquid dish
> detergent works
> > better
> > than  "snoop".
> >
> > Case history :    GM pickup right front wheel
> ---very slow leaker.   I
> > tanked the wheel
> > no sign of leaks.      ----    but it kept leaking
> on truck.
> >
> > One day I was washing the truck  (using dish
> liquid) ------do not tell
> > your wife. Anyway  I soaped the front end ---and
> the phone rang.
> >
> > Much later  (next day)   I noticed a patch of very
> small bubbles on
> > sidewall. It was  Leaking
> > only when sidewall was flexed.
> >
> > Is it a good test for testing coolant systems for
> leaks to combustion
> > chambers.???   IMHO
> > IMHO   the best. ---    If you have to look for
> your Bunny in the
> > suds ----bingo  we have a leak.
> > Very funny --the amount of suds --- from a good
> leaker. Reminds me of
> > putting laundry soap in the dishwasher. 1 foot
> deep all over kitchen
> > floor.
> >
> > Leak testing heat-shields ? ---- go soapy . (from
> a cold start)   Try
> > not to
> > get water on a running
> > hot injection pump..
> >
> > Leaky windshields ?  ---sudsy has the answer.  
> Pressurize Bunny with
> > your
> > shop vac. Brush on
> > the liquid ----you will not fail to find the leak.
> >
> > And what about that cute little grand daughter ???
> let her blow a few
> > bubbles. Here it was little
> > "HOPE"   hopie to me ----Blowing bubbles is a lot
> safer than rolling
> > truck
> > wheels down the drive way across the highway. Now
> I am just a grumpy old
> > man.
> >
> > Hagar.
> >
> > PS:  I use the soapy test on all liquid cooled
> engines.-------problem or
> > no problem.
> >
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