[Vwdiesel] Honda 2.2L diesel Mileage

Shawn Wright swright at zuiko.sls.bc.ca
Wed Aug 17 10:12:16 EDT 2005


I'm assuming the H*nda uses iron liners in an Al block... if not, I would be very 
skeptical as well. I believe there are a few Al block automotive diesels out there now, 
but all have the iron liners.

On 17 Aug 2005 at 8:38, Gary Bangs <gbangs at cambridgehomesusa.com> wrote:

> When I see aluminum cylinders, I think Chevy Vega. Aluminum Cylinders
> and iron coated pistons. Hmmm, which would wear first? Refresh my
> memory, was there ever a gas Vega which ran more than 10,000 miles that
> didn't blow un-Godly amounts of oil smoke?
> 
> That said, many sport bikes (2 cycle variety) use aluminum cylinders but
> with a hard metal sputtered onto the cyl walls.
> 
> Are there any other examples of bare aluminum cylinders out there?
> Sleeved yes. I don't know of any off the top of my head.
> 
> The engineer in me is suspicious,
> 
> -Gary 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vwdiesel-bounces+gbangs=cfl.rr.com at vwfans.com
> [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces+gbangs=cfl.rr.com at vwfans.com] On Behalf Of
> Shawn Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:23 AM
> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Honda 2.2L diesel Mileage
> 
> Isn't the V10 TDI aluminum? I always thought cast iron was the way to go
> with diesels, but it seems a few makes are now trying aluminum, so it
> probably can be done, if designed carefully for strength. Not that I'd
> expect H*nda to get it right the 1st (or 2nd, 3rd...) time, but VW or
> others with diesel experience just might.
> I too got a good laugh out of the piston slap thing! I'd be interested
> to see how many of their other claims are pure marketing rubbish as
> well.
> 
> On 16 Aug 2005 at 20:42, Jim Arnott <jrasite at eoni.com> wrote:
> 
> > My concern would be the aluminum block. When I see one or 10,000 with 
> > half a million miles on the odo, I might consider one.
> > 
> > Until then, I'll stick with Detroit's wonder metal.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > On Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 08:20 PM, LBaird119 at aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >   Hmmm, Honda claims that PISTON SLAP??? is responsible f or "diesel
> 
> > > knock".  I always thought it was from the rapid pressure rise, at 
> > > least according to about EVERY description I've read on it.  How do 
> > > you get much slap out of a .0005 space anyway?
> > >   They also attribute the clean running to the use of EGR.  Hmmm.
> > >  
> > >  
> > 
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> Shawn Wright
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> '85 Jetta D
> '88 Westy 2.1L, soon to be 1.6TD 5 speed  (see progress at
> http://members.shaw.ca/vwdiesels)
> '82 Diesel Westy
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Shawn Wright
http://zuiko.sls.bc.ca/~swright
'85 Jetta D 
'88 Westy 2.1L, soon to be 1.6TD 5 speed
 (see progress at http://members.shaw.ca/vwdiesels)
'82 Diesel Westy




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