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Tue Jun 14 12:32:02 EDT 2005


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>   1. Hillbilly Tuning ---- ( for absolute beginners ) (H .  Hagar.)
>   2. Is that a diesel? (Mark Shepherd)
>   3. Is that a diesel? (Mark Shepherd)
>   4. RE: Seeking experience or data on Petter stationary diesels
>      (James Hansen)
>   5. Seeking experience or data on Petter stationary diesels
>      (Mark Shepherd)
>   6. Re: Seeking experience or data on Petter stationary diesels
>      (Area31 Research Facility)
>   7. RE: Seeking experience or data on Petter stationary diesels
>      (Shirley, Mark R)
>   8. Fuel 101 ---  (  Filtering the FUEL ) (H .  Hagar.)
>   9. Re: Seeking experience or data on Petter stationary diesels
>      (Roger Brown)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:52:08 -0700
>From: "H .  Hagar." <h_hagar at prcn.org>
>Subject: [Vwdiesel] Hillbilly Tuning ---- ( for absolute beginners )
>To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>Message-ID: <000201c57040$cbf9c9d0$38ed7240 at bunneyblue>
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>How did I Hagar become so GOOD at TUNING ?.---glad you asked.
>
>First lets define the word TUNING. ---------- oh my ---you must go to,a dictionary
>or the NET for that one.
>
>So Hagar started with a Galena crystal and a Cats whisker  and a variable capacitor.
>
>Moved on to a one tube (Valve)  Radio   ---yes DIY  type.    The feedback was a delicate
>TUNING procedure.   Too much and she would squeel  and too little she would not
>get the MUSIC.
>
>For my (our)  American friends ?  ----I love this pun ---- "RABBIT EARS"  -----that is TUNING.
>that all the Big Apple volks understand. ?---EH ?
>
>I have several Satellite dishes pointed at the sky and  multi element  dipoles -----BUT
>do I still have RABBIT EARS ? ----bet your sweet ass.
>
>So today Hagar is a TUNING wizard  ---class A1.--------------And a Rabbit Diesel 1977 to 1984
>NA or Turbo can be Hillbilly Tuned to perfection.    ---- For POWER ?  yes.   ---for maximum
>"Smileage"   like Bunny Bondo ?    ---yes SIR.  ---Whatever turns your crank.----LOL-.
>
>Please understand that America  ----  has the finest generation of FINE TUNERS  in the whole
>wide world. ---????? .  yes   all those little cuties who grew up with Rabbit Ears and
>Sesame Street and the Muppets ?   -----take the best of those ? ---that is TUNING at its best
>IMHO.---------------man can they TUNE or what ?  ----EH ?.
>
>Are you getting the drift ?  ----your daughter or your wife  ---may be what you need ? ---to
>listen to that Diesel. ------------- if she say's the Valves are noisy  ---YOU better listen.
>
>Just now I got a call from one of the Crazy Sisters    ---- they and I got to go and  get a 1.6 L
>NA block  at 1530  ----- so my goose is cooked for the day.   . Just think ?   falling in LOVE
>with a woman  at 73 ? ---- I just LOVE that   Lenora girl. -----NO shit.
>
>An OLD fool a geezer in LOVE ?  ---now if that is not crazy ?   WHAT is ?.
>
>Hagar.
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:40:13 +0100
>From: "Mark Shepherd" <mark at shepher.fsnet.co.uk>
>Subject: [Vwdiesel] Is that a diesel?
>To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>Message-ID: <000d01c57058$1a1bf540$60694c51 at pbncomputer>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
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>Is Mike Jackson being driven in a diesel?
>Miser
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:45:46 +0100
>From: "Mark Shepherd" <mark at shepher.fsnet.co.uk>
>Subject: [Vwdiesel] Is that a diesel?
>To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>Message-ID: <000301c57061$42ae8780$60694c51 at pbncomputer>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
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>Not Guilty Wacko...
>
>Martin Bashir
>Come Here 
>And I'll shit on your head
>You and your 'boys in a bed'
>Stickier than diesel  dirt
>on Michael J's  shirt.
>I think you should go 
>And live in Guantanamo...
>
>Markonee1
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:48:05 -0600
>From: James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net>
>Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Seeking experience or data on Petter
>	stationary diesels
>To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>Message-ID: <JEEPKILLLHNMCEPFOCELIEJBCLAA.jhsg at sasktel.net>
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>To unstick a stuck piston...
>remove head and injector.  make a dummy injector with a grease nipple on the
>outside.  Ensure valves are good, refinish the valves if necessary... it
>will eventually need to be done anyway, clean out any cooties in the bore,
>fill the bore with cheap grease, leave the valves closed. reinstall head,
>and your injector with the grease nipple. Greaseguns make around 2000psi,
>more in line with what you need to free a stuck piston.  Pump grease until
>the piston is free of the bore.  (oh, you've disconnected the rod already,
>and make sure it CAN come out the bottom.  Some can't with the crank in.
>
>Soaking with oil is a sure way to have this still sitting around in ten
>years. If a diesel sticks, it's usually from either water getting in, or it
>was a fresh rebuild in a tight bore. You can blow your head off (the skull
>shaped one) by using compressed air to try to unstick it.  Never use
>anything that is compressible on something that is stuck. That's called an
>airgun/bomb. baaaaad.  Use incompressible fluids, grease etc, never air.
>never never never.  If it decides to spew chunks, they fly with a great
>velocity imparted by the energy contained in the compressed gas.  If you use
>grease, oil, etc, and the block completely fractures into tiny bits, the
>energy contained is tiny, and the bits drop to the floor.
>
>by the way, DO NOT try to force the flywheel.  you will damage the rod
>bearing, it it probably not a bronze bearing, but a babbit bearing, and
>forcing it will squeeze out the good bits.
>-James
>(old engine guy)
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:48:55 +0100
>From: "Mark Shepherd" <mark at shepher.fsnet.co.uk>
>Subject: [Vwdiesel] Seeking experience or data on Petter stationary
>	diesels
>To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>Message-ID: <000301c570bd$e6d9f220$1ce94354 at pbncomputer>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>....."tiny bits, the
>energy contained is tiny, and the bits drop to the floor."
>
>James obviously has 'experience'  of his greased parts
>dropping to the floor.
>
>
>Nice engine find though; I wonder if it came from nearby?
>Miser
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 6
>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:37:25 -0400
>From: "Area31 Research Facility" <stephensrw at stn.net>
>Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Seeking experience or data on Petter
>	stationary diesels
>To: "James Hansen" <jhsg at sasktel.net>, <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>Message-ID: <00f101c570cd$0f001f40$7a15f3c7 at area31dumpscore>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>James,
>
>Thank you for this.  That was also good to point out the prospect of
>damaging the babbit in the lower rod bearing.  I hope I haven't deformed
>that too much already.
>
>I did put compressed air in the thing yesterday. When the pressure overcame
>the frictional grip under the hose clamp of the attaching 2" diameter hose
>holding the valving, guage, pipe fittings piece that I'd fabricated to
>insert the air, it came off the engine intake pipe explosively with much
>force and messed up my thumb pretty nicely.  So much for the compressed air
>idea.  The test was helpful though in showing me the condition of my valve
>seals.  It needs a valve job!
>
>I've decided to pull the head and have a look, do some cleaning and valve
>job as necessary.
>
>I had a reply from an engine firm in England.  It appears that my engine is
>a Petter PJ1.  10 HP @ 1800 RPM.  That means we have a 5-6 kW plant.  That
>is just spot on for my needs!!!!!
>
>Rob
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Hansen" <jhsg at sasktel.net>
>To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:48 AM
>Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Seeking experience or data on Petter stationary
>diesels
>
>
>> To unstick a stuck piston...
>> remove head and injector.  make a dummy injector with a grease nipple on
>the
>> outside.  Ensure valves are good, refinish the valves if necessary... it
>> will eventually need to be done anyway, clean out any cooties in the bore,
>> fill the bore with cheap grease, leave the valves closed. reinstall head,
>> and your injector with the grease nipple. Greaseguns make around 2000psi,
>> more in line with what you need to free a stuck piston.  Pump grease until
>> the piston is free of the bore.  (oh, you've disconnected the rod already,
>> and make sure it CAN come out the bottom.  Some can't with the crank in.
>>
>> Soaking with oil is a sure way to have this still sitting around in ten
>> years. If a diesel sticks, it's usually from either water getting in, or
>it
>> was a fresh rebuild in a tight bore. You can blow your head off (the skull
>> shaped one) by using compressed air to try to unstick it.  Never use
>> anything that is compressible on something that is stuck. That's called an
>> airgun/bomb. baaaaad.  Use incompressible fluids, grease etc, never air.
>> never never never.  If it decides to spew chunks, they fly with a great
>> velocity imparted by the energy contained in the compressed gas.  If you
>use
>> grease, oil, etc, and the block completely fractures into tiny bits, the
>> energy contained is tiny, and the bits drop to the floor.
>>
>> by the way, DO NOT try to force the flywheel.  you will damage the rod
>> bearing, it it probably not a bronze bearing, but a babbit bearing, and
>> forcing it will squeeze out the good bits.
>> -James
>> (old engine guy)
>>
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>
>Message: 7
>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:21:35 -0400
>From: "Shirley, Mark R" <MarkRShirley at eaton.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Seeking experience or data on Petter
>	stationary diesels
>To: "James Hansen" <jhsg at sasktel.net>, <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>Message-ID:
>	<EA46289BF91BED40B4C7B8095F45617504378DD4 at marmismb01.ecd.etn.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
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>You can use time too.  I read once of a fella that unstuck an old Farmall
>by squirting oil into all the cylinders, taking the oil pan off, and jacking
>the front of the tractor up.  He then placed a 4x4 post under a crank throw,
>and sat the tractor back down on it.  Came back a month later, and the engine 
>was free.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: James Hansen [mailto:jhsg at sasktel.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:48 AM
>> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>> Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Seeking experience or data on Petter 
>> stationary
>> diesels
>> 
>> 
>> To unstick a stuck piston...
>> remove head and injector.  make a dummy injector with a 
>> grease nipple on the
>> outside.  Ensure valves are good, refinish the valves if 
>> necessary... it
>> will eventually need to be done anyway, clean out any cooties 
>> in the bore,
>> fill the bore with cheap grease, leave the valves closed. 
>> reinstall head,
>> and your injector with the grease nipple. Greaseguns make 
>> around 2000psi,
>> more in line with what you need to free a stuck piston.  Pump 
>> grease until
>> the piston is free of the bore.  (oh, you've disconnected the 
>> rod already,
>> and make sure it CAN come out the bottom.  Some can't with 
>> the crank in.
>> 
>> Soaking with oil is a sure way to have this still sitting 
>> around in ten
>> years. If a diesel sticks, it's usually from either water 
>> getting in, or it
>> was a fresh rebuild in a tight bore. You can blow your head 
>> off (the skull
>> shaped one) by using compressed air to try to unstick it.  Never use
>> anything that is compressible on something that is stuck. 
>> That's called an
>> airgun/bomb. baaaaad.  Use incompressible fluids, grease etc, 
>> never air.
>> never never never.  If it decides to spew chunks, they fly 
>> with a great
>> velocity imparted by the energy contained in the compressed 
>> gas.  If you use
>> grease, oil, etc, and the block completely fractures into 
>> tiny bits, the
>> energy contained is tiny, and the bits drop to the floor.
>> 
>> by the way, DO NOT try to force the flywheel.  you will damage the rod
>> bearing, it it probably not a bronze bearing, but a babbit 
>> bearing, and
>> forcing it will squeeze out the good bits.
>> -James
>> (old engine guy)
>> 
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>
>
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>
>Message: 8
>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:38:41 -0700
>From: "H .  Hagar." <h_hagar at prcn.org>
>Subject: [Vwdiesel] Fuel 101 ---  (  Filtering the FUEL )
>To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>Message-ID: <000201c570e6$a35ce3d0$32ed7240 at bunneyblue>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>I  Hagar is one of the " PUMP "    gang.      ---- we have recommended   for years 
>that the standard VW filter be augmented by a better --- after-filter --.
>
>At the time the only spin-on   I could locate was a 2 micron rated filter designed for
>Caterpillar tractors. -----   James Hansen    should know about those.    
>
>The best --prefilters --    are  spinon   Househeating   filters like  Kralinator  F 132
>and Purolater  -- forget the number.
>
>Bunny Bondo   is now getting a  FRAM   P 3500 (afterfilter) --- why ? --because it is small and easy
>to hook up. --- It is made by   Stanadyne     ---Master Filter Element   Model 50.
>
>I am not NOT impressed by the design of the VW  fuel filter .    ( I have one in my hand )
>dissected  to look at design.         Remember I am here to help the hard pressed ones
>, the RICH guys can get fancy filters of many different designs. Lots to pick from out
>there. -----For really  good filters ?  --look up  Hadraulic filters. ( pricy but NICE).
>
>Hagar.
>
>PS :    the problems with spin-ons ?   ---da tread .  Pays to have a friend with a lathe.
>
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>
>Message: 9
>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:22:58 -0700
>From: Roger Brown <r.c.brown at ieee.org>
>Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Seeking experience or data on Petter
>	stationary diesels
>To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>Message-ID: <42AEE842.7070206 at ieee.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>James Hansen wrote:
>> Never use
>> anything that is compressible on something that is stuck. That's called an
>> airgun/bomb. baaaaad.  Use incompressible fluids, grease etc, never air.
>> never never never.  If it decides to spew chunks, they fly with a great
>> velocity imparted by the energy contained in the compressed gas.  If you use
>> grease, oil, etc, and the block completely fractures into tiny bits, the
>> energy contained is tiny, and the bits drop to the floor.
>
>When I first started working for NASA, one guy took me to see one of the hypervelocity guns they use for meteroid impact 
>studies.  Basically it is a big, long, heavy steel tube, with very high pressure gas behind it.  Fires small projectiles very 
>fast at targets to study the cratering damage.
>
>Anyway, when they first built it, they did a hydro test on it, up to 10,000 psi or something like that.  Apparently some part of 
>the gun failed under the test and blew apart quite spectacularly.  Folks were standing around observing the test and I think 
>some were hurt, not sure about that.  Anyway, the point of being told that story was to not ignore the normally negligible 
>things, like water is incompressible.  It is, just ever so slightly, and if you compress enough of it, to a high enough 
>pressure, it does store a fair bit of energy.  Same thing with the steel, it also stretches and expands under the pressure.
>
>Granted those are extreme cases and some not likely to be experienced in everyday life.  But every time someone mentions 
>incompressible fluids, I recall that story.
>
>I've not heard of the grease trick for cylinders, but had for removing things like pilot bearings stuck in flywheels.  Pump the 
>back side of the bearing full of grease.  Then use a wood or brass rod the same size as the bearing ID, then hammer it into the 
>center of the bearing.  The backside pressure of the grease usually pops the bearing out.
>
>-- 
>    Roger
>
>
>
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