[Vwdiesel] Diesel talk for beginners --- ( Does a Diesel engine slow down the Car like a gasser does ? )

H . Hagar. h_hagar at prcn.org
Sun Jun 19 16:46:34 EDT 2005


Oh, we could get into quantatives, but I disagree with Hagar on the 
brakeing issue.  Essentially a VW diesel does not brake at all.
Just that a high idle provides more net thrust (torque).  

Val

Val and ALL : -----answer : YES YES YES it does.  -----like a gasser ?   ---BUT better.

I call for Doyt Echelberger to explain whether his student has it "RIGHT" .

As a slow down device "Braking"  device --Engine  can be compared to an Air Compressor
to compress Air   takes energy ? RIGHT ?   so that is what slows you down. RIGHT ?
Right so far ?.

Road retarter ? ---bet your ass.       The higher the Compression the more it retards. RIGHT ?

A long time ago ---eons ? we had a real good discussion about this issue.   And I Hager
made a lot of tests on  1.6L NA and Turbo  and 1.5 L  NA  Diesel Rabbits  ----and NO way
can my testing be ---dismissed.   ----I Hagar has a very keen cognizant mindset.

Someone said that a gasser did more retarding due to the "Butterfly" valve   (wrong mostly).

Now did BOSCH use a venturi and a "Butterfly" valve on diesels at one time ? ---YES.

>From a "PHYSICS"  point of view ?   the higher the compression  ---the more it will
be a "RETARDER" , -----period READ MY LIPS.

SO WHAT    is the problem ??? ----simple   ---the fuel must be turned off------then it is
a matter of valving.   -----------   Jake brakes do not work ?  ----well then I shall   have them
stopped from use in front of my Tar Paper shack  ----just like it is closer to town.

Yes   there is a Highway sign to that effect ----here close to town limit.-----A NOISE
regulation.

A Rabbit can not change Valving  -----but she sure can turn the Juice off.     ---like
Bunny Bondo does  ----and she retards very much like a gasser.

Remember British Columbia  is blessed with testhills.----and Bunny and Hagar goes
there regularly.

Finally a Diesel will slow you down ---like NO gasser ever did  Cubic inch for Cubic inch..


Hagar.

PS :     Doyt Echelberger am I right  ?.        ---- I do agree that the butterfly vacuum does
take energy from the crank --and that is helpfull in a slowdown (on gassers).      and
Diesels by the way..



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