[Vwdiesel] Battery talks for beginners # 2.

[James Hansen]

So where do you dumpster dive to find nickel steel and ni-cad batteries?
This serviceable- rebuildiable thing has me interested.  Half the reason the
solar cell/co-gen thing is such a pita is because of batteries.  Grandad had
a basement full of them in the 30's, ran the house on 32V DC from a wind
generator.  These were square glass jars with removable serviceable
plates... not exactly available at your local wally world these days.
I'll be out your way this summer Hagar and should stop in and see your
battery stable and learn.  serviceable ni-cads and alkaline batteries.
hmmm...  my experience is with radio control and such, just AA packs, but
man can they deliver some mean current.  I had a 12v 'D' cell pack you could
weld with.  They were used in portable x-ray units as well,but have fallen
out of favor due to high cost of maintenance on a sealed unit... which in
this case means replacement due to improper charging and a memory
development in the cells.
Edison was more politician and industrialist, and hired the great
experimenters.  Nicola Tesla... now there was a purist inventor.  He wanted
to use the planet as a battery, but lost funding on Wardencliff because the
industrialists (JP Morgan) figured out his goal was  something that wouldn't
generate revenue, whereas Edison envisioned a coal fired generating station
every few blocks delivering high voltage DC current to paying customers. Key
word, "paying customers".  I would dearly love to be off the power grid.
-James

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Subject: [Vwdiesel] Battery talks for beginners # 2.


What's so different about an Edison that makes them such a "good"
battery? ------ He also mentioned getting a speeding ticket in it on the
freeway.
Officer commented about it being the oldest car he'd ever cited for doing
70mph.
     Loren

Loren and All  :    Edison (my hero)  if asked by Loren --what ?  will
Toluene
do in a diesel Rabbit ?  ---would never never say forget it it is a Octane
improver .
He would say get me a Rabbit diesel and a drum of Toluene ---and we WILL
find out.

Edison was one addicted FANATICAL experimentor ---and he set out to make the
worlds BEST battery  (rechargeable) ----and he did just that.    The  EDISON
alcaline  Nickel Steel battery .   After that the Eupians  like the SWEEDE
Jungman improved
on the Idea. Enter  Nickel Cadmium .    ----- and the Alcaline was on the
way.

What was so great about the Edison ?   ---you could take a cell and drop in
from Empire State
to the road below  ---you could Freeze it boil it ---let it sit discharged
for 10 years ore more
you could overcharge it for weeks and let it boil ----NOTHING  would destroy
the
thing  ---except electrolytic current to the case puncturing it. As long as
the case was ok and
the plates were there ?---    you got a cell.     Short circuit ?  ---no
problemo.
Try THAT on your AGM ?   ---and let me know.   And further they can be
charged in
reverse  ---and still work.      Hows about that ? Charlie Brown ?    ----
yes + becomes
negatory and so on.-----no problemo just reverse     ---it will be OK.

At 50 below in Hansen Land the Edison rules ---how low will they go ? I do
not know
but they just LOVE 40 below.

By now some smart one will ask WHAT is the downside ?    ok I shall tell.
Efficiency    watts in to watts out  --and high maintenance.   Like a VW
Diesel they
need a person with som acumen --accumen ?  --well whatever  NO dummy need
apply.

For a fanatic DIY like Hager ?   ---Edison is KING.

My  stable ?   NiFe  and SAFT  and Edison.   and more.  If I do not have a
100 000 dollars of
alkaline batteries at retail price I will kiss your ass. ( line up ).

Next I will tell my favorite NiCad tale --no matter how stupid I looked.

Hagar.

PS:  speeding ticket ?  -----must have been one hell of a hill   ---and all
downhill.
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