[Vwdiesel] Hydrogen power

[Todd Osterbrink]

Was reading something about the great late Clarence Kelly and his amazing 
SR-71 Black Bird.  During it's design phase, they thought about powering it 
with Hydrogen.

That plan fissled when they found out it would take a plane with a fuel tank 
the size of a football field to do the job!  Turns out Hydrogen doesn't have 
enough energy per unit of measure and it would take 3 to 4 times the amount 
of Hydrogen to equal the  energy in a given amount of JP-7.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rod welch" <rod.welch at kolumbus.fi>
To: "'Shirley, Mark R'" <MarkRShirley at eaton.com>; "'Sandy Cameron'" 
<scameron at compmore.net>; <vwdiesel at audifans.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Hydrogen power



Oh...Oh...  are we having too much fun??

But you should do some serious reading...  try
http://www.h2foresight.info/index.htm for a start.

Here (in Finland) anyway they are using fuel cells (11kg) to run scooters
and boats already, I mean nothing is for free in this world is it? and we
are talking about Zero emissions and water as a waste product...

Rod
Värtsilä
Finland



-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley, Mark R [mailto:MarkRShirley at eaton.com]
Sent: 17 May 2005 16:58
To: Sandy Cameron; vwdiesel at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Hydrogen power

Thank you Sandy, for saving me from having a meltdown and spending
lots of time compiling an email that would cause heartburn....  :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandy Cameron [mailto:scameron at compmore.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:09 PM
> To: vwdiesel at audifans.com
> Subject: [Vwdiesel] Hydrogen power
>
>
> At 04:02 PM 5/17/05 +0300, you wrote:
> >
> >C'mon guys... get real...   diesels are following
> dinosaurs....  (just like
> >gassers...)   Hydrogen is the only way to go.
> >I seem to remember making it at school...  Water, battery,
> match, bang....
> >Something like that...
>
> Who made and charged the battery???
>
> Another case of impaired vision, and an entropy-burdened myth
> foisted by
> politicians and market sensitive industrialists who depend on
> our ignorance
> to profit.
>
> There's no loose hydrogen to be captured or stolen on this
> planet, and it
> takes more energy to release it from water than you will get
> from using it.
> (process losses.)
>
> Hydrogen is only useful for rocket science, and costs
> millions to produce.
>
> [Rant Off]
>
> Sandy
>
>
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