[Vwdiesel] Injection pump timing

[HWY9FERGS@cs.com]

Ok Hagar old buddy, your passion for the technique is pretty obvious, and 
much appreciated. You deserve a ton of credit for you input to this forum.  You 
enrich our list immeasurably. I wish I had the time to contribute more to it.  
I have paid very close attention to your posts and have learned a great deal 
from you.  It's just that when it comes to this, you leave me wanting for lack 
of nuts and bolts details.  You can't assume everyone will have the innate 
talents necessary for tuning by ear, and that is the bottom line.  If you were 
able to give actual timing specs, and the sorts of sounds and specifics you have 
experienced, it might be somewhat instructive. It's just darned near 
impossible to instruct that using a keyboard. I'd hate to see someone who really 
shouldn't be altering their pump timing doing so.  As an aside,  I think it's it's 
brilliant that you are using the 1.5 nozzles, set to a slightly higher 
breaking pressure to increase efficiency and boost your smileage.  I strongly suspect 
that those are the main reason for your success. Timing?  of course it can be 
a substantial factor, but honestly, I would be very curious to know where 
your "actual" pump timing is set to?  Do you have the timing tool?  Can you get 
hold of one and get a reading?  Do you know the breaking pressures you have 
your injectors set for??  If you could provide some actual, specific data, then I 
would feel like we have something more concrete to work with. Sorry, Doug     
         

PS   Speaking of concrete, I am very sad. Yesterday my spouse wrecked (and 
fully totaled out) the fully loaded mint 85 TD Jetta I had provided for her.  
She ran off the road and into a concrete abutment at a rather high rate of 
speed. It looks just like she got into a head-on with a semi-truck.  I'm impressed 
with the car's ability to protect the passenger compartment.  Thanks to those 
"crumple zones" and her dedication to wearing the belt,  she walked away.  
Whew!> 
> 
> From: "H .  Hagar." <h_hagar at prcn.org>
>  
   I know you can fudge around a > little on the pump advance (hillbilly 
> tuning) but just on general principles I
> think it's wiser to stay with the stock timing unless you know for a FACT 
> that
> you will only be operating it under very light loads.  You don't want to 
> take
> the chance of doing damage.  Not worth it IMHO.  Doug Ferguson
> 
> Ferguson  ---you do not FULLY understand " Hillbilly Tuning "  ---IMHO.
> 
> Give it another try.  ? --EH `?----and I guarantee that PERFORMACE will 
> convince you.-----
> 
> NO timing using  Bentley --NO WAY NO HOW--will work on an OLD Rabbit if you 
> go by  Bentley
> specs.
> Reason ?    simple ---wear and tear---- " Performance is it"  --like 
> smileage  --how ? do
> you argue
> With performance ?  --can you do it  ? --THEN DO IT. --- Bunny Bundo would 
> be a disaster
> if timed by Bentley--- NOW ? she is a sweety pie ---"The Apple blossom 
> Queen"  --thanks in
> part to Loren and all..
> 
> Next to NO soot in oil --and super Smileage   and ---not too bad 
> performance.  ---Show me
> your SOOT---and I will tell you where you are at.. (Blotter test).   
> ----Ferguson --you
> are wrong --"Hillbilly Tuning"  is ----NOT simply a matter of advancing the
> pump --sometimes it means retarding the pump ----
> 
> A proper procedure under "Hillbilly Tuning" will NEVER damage any pump or
> engine.---PERIOD.
> 
> Why ? it starts off from ---all marks aligned --and that is RETARDED.--- ANY 
> LOAD will
> do---------------------------a diesel will only do what the amount of fuel 
> injected
> dictates.---There is NO way of running a Diesel too lean.---NO matter what 
> you
> do.----Trust ME --but verify----.
> 
> And "Hillbilly"  Tuning starts with "Fueling"  screw right out?  --you bet 
> your butt.
> 
> Fueling screw is simply a mechanical stop  --preventing Governor from moving 
> control
> collar to cover drain holes on high pressure piston----cover holes ? --more
> fuel.------jepper..
> 
> Hagar.
> 
> PS :   For NEWBIES ---read my lips  ---Hillbilly Tuning is anything but 
> Billy---it is a
> very scientific --very  time consuming ---very ---satisfying ---procedure 
> for
> experimentors.
>