[Vwdiesel] KG diesel, etc

[pmdolan at sasktel.net]

The Audi 5 cyl TD is not much different in weight from the 2.0 100LS based engine in the 924, so weight distribution (nearly 50/50 in a 924) would not suffer.

The 944 and 968 use the same as late 924 - Audi 016 case, mounted in the same way as in the Audis.  Gears and shafts are quite interchangeable.  That is why this is the ultimate easy swap.

I am going to put my 2.0 into my M471/924 to prove the concept, and then consider doing a 968/2.5TDI swap if it works as I think it will.

Pat

----- Original Message -----
From: George Allison <george.allison at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] KG diesel, etc

> Ron,
> 
> I've given this swap some thought, off-and-on, over the past couple
> years...here's what I know about it (certainly I'm no expert):
> 
> I don't know of any Audi-VW bellhousing adapters, though one would 
> be easy enough to make. The Volvo diesel six bolts up to the 
> bellhousing, but is too long to fit under the hood. I know guys 
> have put gasser Audi turbo fives into the cars, so the Audi TD 
> five would certainly fit too (weight distribution would be 
> affected, but would still probably be very good as the 924's front 
> wheels sit very far forward, and the clutch and tranny are still 
> at the back). Options for changing the gear ratios...some later 
> 944s and 968s have more diesel-suited gearboxes, but might be 
> expensive to find and install. I read that the 924 transmission is 
> just Audi 4000 tranny guts in a different case (or it might even 
> be partly the same case, just mounted differently), and that you 
> can swap 4000 or Quantum diesel gears into it pretty cheaply. 
> 
> That's what I know...if you do it, let us know how it goes--I hope 
> to attempt it myself one of these days...
> 
> On 4/11/06, Ron Schroeder <rjs at bnl.gov> wrote:
> > Hi George,
> >
> > Were all of the Audis' the "Audi" pattern or were some like the 
> early 80's
> > 4000 the VW pattern?
> >
> > Does anybody make a VW to Audi adapter?
> >
> > Can you get different R&P gears for the 924?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ron Schroeder
> > WD8CDH
> > '86 Golf diesel "rust bucket"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Allison" <george.allison at gmail.com>
> > To: "Ron Schroeder" <rjs at bnl.gov>
> > Cc: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] KG diesel, etc
> >
> >
> > The 924 bellhousing uses the Audi 4/5/6-cylinder pattern, which is
> > different from the VW gasser/diesel 4-cylinder pattern. An Audi 
> 5-cyl
> > diesel or TD or TDI will bolt right in, but the VW diesel or 1.9TDI
> > won't match up.
> >
> > Gearing changes are also necessary for any 924 diesel swap...or else
> > your nice little 2.0L I-5 Audi TD will be turning 4000 rpm on the
> > highway. not good.
> >
> > On 4/11/06, Ron Schroeder <rjs at bnl.gov> wrote:
> > > Can anyone confirm the engine bolt pattern on the 924 
> bellhousing matches
> > > the VW diesel?  I was told that it was different.
> > >
> > > Ron Schroeder
> > > WD8CDH
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:14:27 -0600
> > > > From: pmdolan at sasktel.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] KG diesel, etc
> > > > To: William J Toensing <toensing at theunion.net>
> > > > Cc: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > > > Message-ID: <4cbaa464677a.443a6843 at sasktel.net>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > > >
> > > > VERY easy in a Scirocco or 924 Porsche, but same kind of 
> difficulties in
> > a
> > > 914 as any other aircooled car (but enough room in THAT engine 
> bay for a
> > 2.5
> > > l V6 TDI. Hmmmmm.
> > >
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