[Vwdiesel] New Topic:Off Topic, diesel transplant into a Hudson

[pmdolan at sasktel.net]

Please don't think I am crazy, but the engine I would use is the 4.3 litre V6 from a J-body GM.  This was the 5.7 cut down to 6 cylinders, and like all later 5.7s was a really good engine.  They are not exactly common, but if you can find one, it is a giveaway.  The bellhousing pattern is GM small, so there are a zillion gearboxes that will bolt up, and you can easily do the same for clutch and flywheel.

If you want to go inline 5 or 6 (and who wouldn't), there are Toyota diesels in Landcruisers that were (are) sold as mine trucks all over North America.  Try Alexander's Auto Ranch in Flin Flon, MB, they wreck them from HBM&SCo.  There are different Toyota gearboxes to fit that bellhousing if you don't like the mine truck ratios.  Check out the M-B enthusiasts for what will bolt up to the 5 and 6 cyl Mercedes engines - you might get a happy surprise.

The rarest of the rare (and nicest of the lot) are the 4.0 litre inline six Mistubishi engines that came in Dodge pickups in '78 and '79s.

----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Briggs <vbriggs at stny.rr.com>
Date: Sunday, December 3, 2006 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] New Topic:Off Topic, diesel transplant into a Hudson

> I seem to recall that izusu had a nice 4 cylinder diesel with a 5 
> speed 
> in some of their early '80s trucks , don't recall if it was a 
> turbo or 
> not. You would probably have an easy time getting a 6.2 ltr gm 
> diesel, 
> pretty reliable from what my friend says. his 3/4 ton 4x4 gets 
> almost 
> 23 mpg on the highway in 2 wheel drive, or so he says, should get 
> you a 
> decent increase in mileage over that rolling brick of a truck if 
> thats 
> true.
> On Dec 3, 2006, at 4:09 AM, William J Toensing wrote:
> 
> > I have thought about this but may never do it, but the 
> discussionof 
> > transplanting a VW diesel engine into a Suzuki Samari sparked 
> interest 
> > of an idea I have had in the back of my head. Installing a 
> diesel into 
> > an older American car, specifically a 1947 Hudson Commodore 6. I 
> > bought this Hudson from a person who started a restoration many 
> years 
> > ago, lost interest 25 years ago & stored it in his garage until 
> I 
> > bought it a year ago. The prior restorer had done all the body 
> work, 
> > had left it in primer, & had rebuilt a 1952 Hudson Super 6 (not 
> a 
> > Hornet) but had not installed it in the car. This engine will 
> match an 
> > existing Hudson 3 speed transmission with overdrive, clutch & 
> bell 
> > housing. Using this engine & transmission would probably make 
> the most 
> > sence. I generally like to keep cars stock looking, especially 
> when 
> > looking at a car without opening the hood.
> >
> > Most street rodders, when making an engine swap will use a small 
> block 
> > Chevy V-8 & a late model automatic. However, fuel economy has 
> always 
> > been my thing & I have been attracted to diesels ever since I 
> saw my 
> > first M Benz diesel in the '60s.
> >
> > That said, what do you think would be the the best engine to 
> use. My 
> > first thought would be to use a 5 cylinder turbo diesel out of a 
> > M.Benz 300D or 300SD but maybe there are others I should 
> consider. 
> > First, for those of you not familiar with the 1947 Hudson under 
> > consideration. It weighes about 3150 to 3200 pounds including 
> the 
> > stock engine which in stock 6 cylinder form had 102 HP, has a 
> 121 inch 
> > wheelbase, & an open driveshaft. I want this conversion to be as 
> easy 
> > & inexpensive as possible with out being penny wise & pound 
> foolish. 
> > All the MB 300Ds & SDs that I have seen have an automatic with a 
> floor 
> > "shift". The Hudson has a column shift which I would like to 
> retain 
> > for appearance sake. I would also like to use a diesel that 
> weighs 
> > around the same or less than the stock Hudson did. This rules 
> out 
> > diesel engines from Chevy, Ford, & Dodge pickups. This also 
> rules out 
> > a VW Rabbit/Dasher diesel which is too small.
> >
> > That said, are there any other diesel engine & transmission 
> > combinations I should consider?
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