[Vwdiesel] Leaking injection pumps
Doyt W. Echelberger
doyt at buckeye-express.com
Sat Dec 23 18:22:49 EST 2006
Identifying fuel source..location, etc....
Ohio, midway between Cleveland and Toledo, right on the shores of Lake Erie.
1985 Jetta TD ,,,,IP started dripping from turbo enrichment module about
November.
I gurgled in a quart of 2-cycle oil and a splash of supplements, and when
this didn't completely solve the drip, I added a quart of Ford
ATF. Something worked, at least temporarily.
Keep up the good work, James. Find that devil in the woodpile.
Doyt Echelberger
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At 11:45 PM 12/22/2006, you wrote:
>I had a long chat with the fellow gearheads at the local Bosch emporium
>today.
>
>They have heard a lot of stuff. If one tenth of the doomsday that they
>have heard comes to pass, they are going to be busy boys for the next
>while. BUT, we all agreed that there is a lot of hype to this.
>This is to say, that any pump malady that happens in the next few years
>is going to be blamed on fuel, and the unscrupulous will use this to
>sell bug juice. They mentioned that the Stanadyne rep told them to
>stock up, because there is going to be NO supply soon, the US is using
>it up THAT fast, well beyond production capacity. One shop in ALberta
>purchased over a hundred grand THEIR COST of Stanadyne additives
>alone... must be reselling it somewhere, ebay, thirsty diesels in the
>US, etc etc... because it's payable in 30 days, no credit terms. It's
>just that EVERYONE is chirping about additives... so there is a lot
>being sold.
>
>Now, the question we all had is why.
>There's been ULSD here since Aug 1, 2006. No pumps crowding the door
>here. This is a good thing for the TDI crowd. here's the scenario-
>your pump leaks, they can rebuild it, but it's 200K for tooling and
>machinery to calibrate this one pump, and only this one pump, so your
>local shop cannot justify the expense of machinery that wears out by the
>time it pays for itself... So, when (if) it gets busy, you have two
>options. Rebuild your own pump at the local shop, and it goes out to be
>calibrated which will take 2 mos total time, or you pop the big coin, go
>reman out of a box, or NEW. big bucks, no scenario is pleasant. At
>least they can do the old school stuff locally.
>
>Theories thrown around are that the US refinery fleet is by and large
>older than in Canada. ULSD has been a real significant pain in their
>rosy red regarding upgrades in a timely manner. We're wondering if it
>is specific refineries, adn problems with the process itself or the
>adiditives much like there were issues with the experimental fuel
>additive package out of a local refinery here years ago. It cost them
>significant coinage then to replace adn rebuild pumps that had
>depositional problems internally.
>
>I had mentioned here that those affected should post their location, so
>we can track the issue. It would be interesting to see if the issues
>center around a specific supply point, or two using identical processes,
>or additive packages. The thoughts today were that the additives were
>having the effect on the seals... some goofy shit in the additive
>package to make up for, or coincidental with the change in refining
>process in like refineries.
>
>The problems seem like there is a chemical, most likely a short chain
>hydrocarbon in the fuel that is attacking the Buna-n in the o-rings.
>Nobody had any opinions as to what an additive could do to prevent
>this... it's not like it reacts with the fuel, it just makes it slippery
>and higher cetane.
>
>SO, PLEASE, identify the fuel source, and your location if you have had
>pump leakage troubles since August-ish. I'll track them, pin it on a
>map and maybe it will start to make sense if the sample size gets large
>enough. Enough so that you may be in a postion to ask for your money
>for the rebuild from the refinery.
>
>Incidentally, pump diesel jumped 13 cents per litre here today.
>Gearing up for the holidays and the increased travel. No collusion my ass.
>
>-james
>
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