[Vwdiesel] Vwdiesel Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3

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Sat Nov 3 21:09:58 PDT 2007


Try Arizona Auto Haus for the little socket.  

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: timing tension (Terry Briggs)
   2. Re: timing tension (Roger Brown)
   3. Re: timing tension (Terry Briggs)
   4. Re: axle retainer bit (raymond greeley)
   5. Re: axle retainer bit (Terry Briggs)
   6. Re: axle retainer bit (Rudy)
   7. Re: axle retainer bit (William  Longyard)
   8. Re: axle retainer bit (Terry Briggs)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:09:33 -0400
From: Terry Briggs <vbriggs at stny.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] timing tension
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Message-ID: <7eefa978233353a4a1bc94a6f1f9f5c7 at stny.rr.com>
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Ok, does anyone know an on line vendor for the 12 point allen socket for the
axle retainer. I checked 4 different shops in the area, yes even NAPA , and
none of them have the socket. Thought about a torx bit, but I just know
that's not going to work.
On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:58 PM, James Hansen wrote:

> All belts are not the same Sandy.
>
> Timing is too exact a thing for there to be enough resolution with the 
> coarseness of the cogs.  Even with V8's and big gnarly double roller 
> timing chains, if you start to get fussy and dial in the camshafts, 
> they are always a couple degrees off between chains. (I've seen 6 
> degrees manufacturer error in camshafts alone, and this is on fancy 
> race things that are supposed to be higher tolerance. Yeah.
>
> Being a purist, I check these things, and trust me, the valve timing, 
> and the pump timing are always different between belts.  Not enough to 
> not run, not enough to crash a valve, but enough to be out of optimum 
> as established for the engine.
> -james
>
> Sandy Cameron wrote:
>> At 01:45 PM 31/10/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>>>  So by the sounds of it (I'm assuming were're talking about diesel), 
>>> if
>> all the pulleys are held in place somehow so they don't move, you 
>> should be able to work the belt off, and the new one on, without 
>> having to re time ?
>>>
>>
>> Of course !
>>
>> I dont even remove the valve cover. or slack the cam bolt.
>>
>> The purists try to suggest that the timing should be re-checked, but 
>> I've
>> never seen the logic in that. The new belt has the same number of 
>> teeth as
>> the old one.
>> If no one frigged witth the timing,it should be exactly the same.
>>
>> I DO make a mark on the plate behind the cam sprocket to register its
>> position, in case it should shift, (before removing the old belt) but 
>> none
>> have yet, and I've done several this way.
>>
>> Also, I've found I can get the new belt on to the crank sprocket 
>> without
>> removing the water pump pulley, , just the crank pulley (4 allen 
>> bolts)
>> I can swing the lower belt guard far enough to change the belt, 
>> without
>> having to remove it completely.
>>
>> Takes about 15 minutes in the driveway , working thru the wheel well, 
>> then
>> drive away.
>>
>> Sandy
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:44:42 -0700
From: Roger Brown <r.c.brown at ieee.org>
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] timing tension
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Message-ID: <472D07EA.6030001 at ieee.org>
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Terry Briggs wrote:
> Ok, does anyone know an on line vendor for the 12 point allen socket 
> for the axle retainer. I checked 4 different shops in the area, yes 
> even NAPA , and none of them have the socket. Thought about a torx bit, 
> but I just know that's not going to work.

It is a triple square bit:
	http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/lis60750.html

-- 

   Roger


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:52 -0400
From: Terry Briggs <vbriggs at stny.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] timing tension
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Message-ID: <36a57e3e26fb78e5983676a7a92d1af8 at stny.rr.com>
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thanks Roger, your a lifesaver. I did find one at an online shop, but 
it was $12 just for one.
On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Roger Brown wrote:

> Terry Briggs wrote:
>> Ok, does anyone know an on line vendor for the 12 point allen socket
>> for the axle retainer. I checked 4 different shops in the area, yes
>> even NAPA , and none of them have the socket. Thought about a torx 
>> bit,
>> but I just know that's not going to work.
>
> It is a triple square bit:
> 	http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/lis60750.html
>
> -- 
>
>    Roger
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Corning, New York 14830
Vbriggs at stny.rr.com


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 00:12:30 +0000
From: raymond greeley <rgreeley2 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] axle retainer bit
To: Terry Briggs <vbriggs at stny.rr.com>, "Vwdiesel at vwfans.com"
	<vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Message-ID: <BAY101-W3094AC8783B5C9FA639C47EA8F0 at phx.gbl>
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Hey All, I found mine at a local autozone. I got three sizes
of the triple square in a package, one of which fit the axle retaining bolt
for under 12 dollars
I found several of mine loose and removed one and took it
in the store with me to confirm fit.
good luck, ray> From: vbriggs at stny.rr.com> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:52
-0400> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] timing tension> >
thanks Roger, your a lifesaver. I did find one at an online shop, but > it
was $12 just for one.> On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Roger Brown wrote:> > >
Terry Briggs wrote:> >> Ok, does anyone know an on line vendor for the 12
point allen socket> >> for the axle retainer. I checked 4 different shops in
the area, yes> >> even NAPA , and none of them have the socket. Thought
about a torx > >> bit,> >> but I just know that's not going to work.> >> >
It is a triple square bit:> > http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/lis60750.html>
>> > -- > >> > Roger> > _______________________________________________> >
Vwdiesel mailing list> > Vwdiesel at vwfans.com> >
http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel> >> >> M.I. 6> Custom
Design and Fabrication> 2576 King Circle> Corning, New York 14830>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:48:26 -0400
From: Terry Briggs <vbriggs at stny.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] axle retainer bit
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Message-ID: <dfe28a8e638ad5de8006c2b1294196be at stny.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=ISO-8859-1;	format=flowed

I went to two different autozones, they thought I was from mars or 
something. Napa had the allen key set, but no sockets and they would 
have had to order them anyways for like $60 ! Roger sent me that web 
link, 4 piece set for like $12
On Nov 3, 2007, at 8:12 PM, raymond greeley wrote:

>  Hey All, I found mine at a local autozone. I got three sizes
>  of the triple square in a package,?one of which fit the axle 
> retaining bolt for under 12 dollars
>  I found several of mine loose and removed one and took it
>  in the store with me to confirm fit.
>  good luck, ray
>
> > From: vbriggs at stny.rr.com
> > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:52 -0400
> > To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] timing tension
> >
> > thanks Roger, your a lifesaver. I did find one at an online shop, but
> > it was $12 just for one.
> > On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Roger Brown wrote:
> >
> > > Terry Briggs wrote:
> > >> Ok, does anyone know an on line vendor for the 12 point allen 
> socket
> > >> for the axle retainer. I checked 4 different shops in the area, 
> yes
> > >> even NAPA , and none of them have the socket. Thought about a torx
> > >> bit,
> > >> but I just know that's not going to work.
> > >
> > > It is a triple square bit:
> > > http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/lis60750.html
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Roger
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Vwdiesel mailing list
> > > Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
> > >
> > >
> > M.I. 6
> > Custom Design and Fabrication
> > 2576 King Circle
> > Corning, New York 14830
> > Vbriggs at stny.rr.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Vwdiesel mailing list
> > Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
>
>
> Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf?. 
> Stop by today!
M.I. 6
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Corning, New York 14830
Vbriggs at stny.rr.com


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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:37:38 -0700
From: "Rudy" <petersenrudy at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] axle retainer bit
To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV9EBD55F25AD31AC820B6DDB8F0 at phx.gbl>
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Try calling Bow Wow in Lynnwood, WA. 425-771-6411, they'll send you one, or,
I'd be happy to grab one and send it to you if you like, Monday morning.

Rudy 

-----Original Message-----
From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] On
Behalf Of Terry Briggs
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:48 PM
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] axle retainer bit

I went to two different autozones, they thought I was from mars or
something. Napa had the allen key set, but no sockets and they would have
had to order them anyways for like $60 ! Roger sent me that web link, 4
piece set for like $12 On Nov 3, 2007, at 8:12 PM, raymond greeley wrote:

>  Hey All, I found mine at a local autozone. I got three sizes  of the 
> triple square in a package,?one of which fit the axle retaining bolt 
> for under 12 dollars  I found several of mine loose and removed one 
> and took it  in the store with me to confirm fit.
>  good luck, ray
>
> > From: vbriggs at stny.rr.com
> > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:52 -0400
> > To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] timing tension
> >
> > thanks Roger, your a lifesaver. I did find one at an online shop, 
> > but it was $12 just for one.
> > On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Roger Brown wrote:
> >
> > > Terry Briggs wrote:
> > >> Ok, does anyone know an on line vendor for the 12 point allen
> socket
> > >> for the axle retainer. I checked 4 different shops in the area,
> yes
> > >> even NAPA , and none of them have the socket. Thought about a 
> > >> torx bit, but I just know that's not going to work.
> > >
> > > It is a triple square bit:
> > > http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/lis60750.html
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Roger
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Vwdiesel mailing list
> > > Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
> > >
> > >
> > M.I. 6
> > Custom Design and Fabrication
> > 2576 King Circle
> > Corning, New York 14830
> > Vbriggs at stny.rr.com
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
>
>
> Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf?. 
> Stop by today!
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Corning, New York 14830
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:09:10 -0400
From: "William  Longyard" <longyard at ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] axle retainer bit
To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Message-ID: <5FCBED03D3D24007A088A233125CFA34 at PC58PC>
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	reply-type=original

O'Reilly's has the set for less than $5.00.  Just bought a set last week.

Bill Longyard


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rudy" <petersenrudy at hotmail.com>
To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] axle retainer bit


Try calling Bow Wow in Lynnwood, WA. 425-771-6411, they'll send you one, or,
I'd be happy to grab one and send it to you if you like, Monday morning.

Rudy

-----Original Message-----
From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] On
Behalf Of Terry Briggs
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:48 PM
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] axle retainer bit

I went to two different autozones, they thought I was from mars or
something. Napa had the allen key set, but no sockets and they would have
had to order them anyways for like $60 ! Roger sent me that web link, 4
piece set for like $12 On Nov 3, 2007, at 8:12 PM, raymond greeley wrote:

>  Hey All, I found mine at a local autozone. I got three sizes  of the
> triple square in a package, one of which fit the axle retaining bolt
> for under 12 dollars  I found several of mine loose and removed one
> and took it  in the store with me to confirm fit.
>  good luck, ray
>
> > From: vbriggs at stny.rr.com
> > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:52 -0400
> > To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] timing tension
> >
> > thanks Roger, your a lifesaver. I did find one at an online shop,
> > but it was $12 just for one.
> > On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Roger Brown wrote:
> >
> > > Terry Briggs wrote:
> > >> Ok, does anyone know an on line vendor for the 12 point allen
> socket
> > >> for the axle retainer. I checked 4 different shops in the area,
> yes
> > >> even NAPA , and none of them have the socket. Thought about a
> > >> torx bit, but I just know that's not going to work.
> > >
> > > It is a triple square bit:
> > > http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/lis60750.html
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Roger
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Vwdiesel mailing list
> > > Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
> > >
> > >
> > M.I. 6
> > Custom Design and Fabrication
> > 2576 King Circle
> > Corning, New York 14830
> > Vbriggs at stny.rr.com
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
>
>
> Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf?.
> Stop by today!
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Corning, New York 14830
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:16:25 -0400
From: Terry Briggs <vbriggs at stny.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] axle retainer bit
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Message-ID: <b6f4501e07986beeea03fc1e9c89958e at stny.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=ISO-8859-1;	format=flowed

thanks for the offer, I just ordered a set earlier.
On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Rudy wrote:

> Try calling Bow Wow in Lynnwood, WA. 425-771-6411, they'll send you 
> one, or,
> I'd be happy to grab one and send it to you if you like, Monday 
> morning.
>
> Rudy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Terry Briggs
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:48 PM
> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] axle retainer bit
>
> I went to two different autozones, they thought I was from mars or
> something. Napa had the allen key set, but no sockets and they would 
> have
> had to order them anyways for like $60 ! Roger sent me that web link, 4
> piece set for like $12 On Nov 3, 2007, at 8:12 PM, raymond greeley 
> wrote:
>
>>  Hey All, I found mine at a local autozone. I got three sizes  of the
>> triple square in a package,?one of which fit the axle retaining bolt
>> for under 12 dollars  I found several of mine loose and removed one
>> and took it  in the store with me to confirm fit.
>>  good luck, ray
>>
>>> From: vbriggs at stny.rr.com
>>> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:52 -0400
>>> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] timing tension
>>>
>>> thanks Roger, your a lifesaver. I did find one at an online shop,
>>> but it was $12 just for one.
>>> On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Roger Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Terry Briggs wrote:
>>>>> Ok, does anyone know an on line vendor for the 12 point allen
>> socket
>>>>> for the axle retainer. I checked 4 different shops in the area,
>> yes
>>>>> even NAPA , and none of them have the socket. Thought about a
>>>>> torx bit, but I just know that's not going to work.
>>>>
>>>> It is a triple square bit:
>>>> http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/lis60750.html
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Roger
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Vwdiesel mailing list
>>>> Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>>>> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
>>>>
>>>>
>>> M.I. 6
>>> Custom Design and Fabrication
>>> 2576 King Circle
>>> Corning, New York 14830
>>> Vbriggs at stny.rr.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Vwdiesel mailing list
>>> Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>>> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
>>
>>
>> Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf?.
>> Stop by today!
> M.I. 6
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> 2576 King Circle
> Corning, New York 14830
> Vbriggs at stny.rr.com
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