[Vwdiesel] timing belts

Terry Briggs vbriggs at stny.rr.com
Sat Oct 13 15:52:50 PDT 2007


most excellent information, thanks, I was wondering about the mounts.
On Oct 13, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Sandy Cameron wrote:

> At 12:29 AM 13/10/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>> I'm getting ready to swap out the engine in my '86 golf na with a 
>> 1.6na
>> out of an '84 jetta. All the jetta engine needs is a new timing belt
>> and tensioner pulley. they aren't bad, it just sat for several years
>> and was never started, so my plan is to yank the engine, change the
>> belt and tensioner out while the engine is out of the car. I see the
>> timing belts are listed as '85 to something like '94 and the others
>> listed as '83 and '84, is there a real difference between them, there
>> isn't a cost difference or anything listed.
>>
>> Also any tips on the best way to pull the engine out would be
>> appreciated. I've changed a lot of engines in the past, but haven't
>> ever done a front wheel drive car before.
>>
>
> The engine mounts are different on the 84 (A1) engine from the 86 (A2)
> engine, otherwise they are a bolt in replacement.
>
> Here's a note I sent to someone else about an A1 transplant to an A2 
> car I
> did a while ago.
>
> ********************************
>
> Goldie, my 87 td (A2) has an 82 1.6TD (A1)  engine in  it, and for 
> that, I
> had to saw the front (pulley end) engine mount off it., not rocket 
> science.
> Otherwise it fit just fine. Had to scrap the A1 Tranny, reuse the A2 
> tranny.
>
> Save the engine mounts from the A2  engine (brackets, etc, and maybe 
> the
> shifter links)
> In a word, don't throw away ANY of the A2 parts umtill the job is 
> complete.
> That was a diesel to diesel exchange in goldie.
>
> ********************************
>
> The engine/tranny assembly will come out of both cars thru the top, 
> although
> when they are assembled at the factory, they go in through the bottom 
> as a
> common assembly with the subframe and suspension components.
>
> I have found that if I tip up the front end of the engine so the crank
> pulley clears the frame rail, then let it move across a bit, the tail 
> of the
> tranny will clear the other frame rail, and out she comes.
>
> You will have to saw off the A1 engine mount at the pulley end of the
> engine, and bolt the A2 engine mount to the back of the block, and 
> save the
> starter bracket / engine mount from the old engine, for the 
> replacement.
>
> If the tranny in your A2 is ok, you may want to re-use it instead of 
> the A1
> tranny. I did.
> If you are a real Massochist, you might even leave the tranny in the 
> A2, and
> try to mate the engine with it in the car. (Like porcupines making 
> love!)
>
> I ALWAYS hoist engine and tranny together, so much easier.
>
> The right bracketry will be there and it will bolt up ok to your 
> replacement
> engine
> I forget what the tranny mount is like on the A1, the tranny was 
> trashed, so
> went straight in
> to the scrap heap.
>
> I've never owned any A1s
>
> Sandy
>
>
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