[Vwdiesel] Anyone driven the '09 TDI yet? On tiptronics and such

[Tony and Lillie]

You used the word "durability" in the same sentance as "Tiptronic"?

They are quite far from it, as your obvious 75 years of being a car buff has 
told you. I have yet to replace a manual in a MK4, but have done three 
Tip's. Also done one 4-speed auto. And, sent a DSG back to VW with 26K that 
was under warranty. She is a good customer, so I asked with she got back. 
She said they replaced the trans. Yea, give me one of those please..........

I think I'll keep the 82 Jetta and the 85 4000Q, thank you very much.
Tony Hoffman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William J Toensing" <toensing at wildblue.net>
To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:49 AM
Subject: [Vwdiesel] Anyone driven the '09 TDI yet?


> Yes, at the VW dealer in the Roseville (Calif) Auto Mall. However, it was 
> only around the circular road inside the mall, not a real chance to test 
> drive the car. It was a 4 door sedan with the "Tiptronic" manumatic. It 
> felt reasonably smooth for an automatic, especially when you consider it 
> to be an automated manual transmission. I liked the car but would prefer a 
> "Sportwagon" with the 6 speed manual due to my concerns with the Tiptronic 
> "manumatic".
> I saw a cut-a-way display of this "manumatic" transmission. From my 
> experience as a 75 year old car buff, I wonder about the durability of 
> this transmission, especially in stop & go city traffic. How long will the 
> clutches (it has two, I have read) last? The transmission looked so 
> complicated I doubt any VW dealership or independent automatic 
> transmission repair shop will be able to repair it. I hope I am wrong in 
> this assessment as an automatic that is as flexible as a manual 
> transmission & offers as good or better fuel economy than a transmission 
> would be a plus, if it is durable & not extremely costly to repair.
> Bill Toensing, Nevada City, CA
>