[Vwdiesel] help my '89 Jetta stopped running !!!!

[Brian Hiltscher]

Hi Erik,

It seems to crank over noticably faster.....prior to the incident, it always seemed a little slow, like a diesel should, however now it seems to crank over like I would expect a gasoline engine to.

Everything seemed to happen all at once....the breaking of the A/C belt & the engine losing all power.   Is it possible that something could have got into the intake when the belt broke ?

Thanks,

Brian


----- Original Message ----
From: Erik Lane <eriklane at gmail.com>
To: Brian Hiltscher <briandownunda at yahoo.com>; vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:52:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] help my '89 Jetta stopped running !!!!

At the slow speeds of a starter cranking - before the alternator field
is excited - I don't think there is much load coming from the
alternator, and the AC compressor, if the magnetic clutch is not
engaged or stuck should also be practically nothing. The water pump
would be some resistance, but I doubt enough to have much of a
difference in cranking speed.

How much faster is it? With my uncle's TDI at one point it was super
fast cranking, like there wasn't any compression left at all. It also
wouldn't start. I did some troubleshooting and finally figured out
that the intake was restricted so it was pulling a vacuum and had no
air in the cylinders to compress. It spun over crazy fast like things
were super wrong. Once we found the block in the intake and fixed it
the engine started right back up like brand new. I don't know if this
is what is wrong with yours, or what if anything it would have to do
with your broken belt. I am also ALWAYS suspicious of coincidences.
I've yet to see a true coincidence with these things, although
sometimes when I haven't done enough troubleshooting yet it can seem
that way.

Erik

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com> wrote:
> as for the burning smell, that was the belt melting, either it had too much
> tension, too little tension, something was stuck and resisting, or the
> pulley(s) are bad
>
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It probably starts and turns over easier because it no longer has a load to
>> turn (i.e. AC compressor, alternator, water pump, etc.)
>>
>> Makes it much easier for it to turn over
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Brian Hiltscher <briandownunda at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply !
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>
>>> To: Brian Hiltscher <briandownunda at yahoo.com>; vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>>> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:55:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] help my '89 Jetta stopped running !!!!
>>>
>>> <<< 1. Doubt it was the timing belt, the engine would lock when it hits
>>> the valves while turning over
>>> <<< 2. Yes, very much so
>>> <<<3. Your pulley may be worn out, which causes the belts to heat up and
>>> snap. Smelt any burnt rubber lately?
>>>
>>> Yes, as a matter of fact, I did smell some burnt rubber.  What pulley are
>>> you referring to ?  Also, any idea why it wouldn't start & it seems to turn
>>> over so much easier ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Brian Hiltscher <
>>> briandownunda at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was driving my '89 Diesel Jetta home last night, I heard a "snap", then
>>>> the engine completely shut down :-(  When I opened the hood, I noticed that
>>>> the AC belt was broken.  So, I tried to start it & noticed that it is
>>>> turning over noticably faster than before, and, of course will not start :-(
>>>>  I never heard any "bad" noises coming out of the engine like pistons
>>>> slapping against valves.  I have owned the vehicle for just a few months,
>>>> the previous owner had replaced the timing belt < 30k miles ago (had
>>>> receipts), however the vehicle was sitting in his driveway & undriven / not
>>>> started for 3-4 years.  The car ran perfectly up until yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> Question 1:  Does this sound like the timing belt broke ?
>>>>
>>>> Question 2: Is the 1.6 VW diesel an "interference" engine ?
>>>>
>>>> Question 3:  Any idea why the A/C belt broke as well ?  (I don't believe
>>>> in coincidences)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much (in advance)
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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