[Vwdiesel] Gas/diesel prices

[Patrick Dolan]

The point you raise about vehicle regulation is valid.  Our problem is that we have abdicated authority over critical things to a hoarde of mindless bureaucrats...many of whom have an agenda.  The US EPA, for example, insists on trying to pick winners and losers in the technological battle to meet emissions targets by writing mindless, biased law.  In Europe, they have a far more intelligent approach - which came from INDUSTRY, not government.  That was to reduce CARBON emissions, which by consequence means everything else goes down with it.  Only the technology that does it is the technology that does it (bearing in mind, some might not even exist today, but if it is against a regulatory bias, it will NEVER be available to the public).

As far as you point about $10/$12 fuel:  Much of the world is there now.  What makes you think we are so special we should be able to continue to squander resources and pollute at the highest rate on the planet to sustain our incredilby greedy lifestyle?  

Personally, I am sick to death of the ME< ME> ME generation(s) financing their gluttony on the backs of my children and grandchildren.

----- Original Message -----
From: mikitka <mikitka at embarqmail.com>
Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Gas/diesel prices

> 	This puts it into perspective, kind of.  http://tinyurl.com/5ab662
> Not a good thing if it gets that high.
> Nick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] On
> Behalf Of William J Toensing
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:29 PM
> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Subject: [Vwdiesel] Gas/diesel prices
> 
> I agree with much of what Tom Krummell says except I feel 
> nationalization of
> Big Oil is one of the answers. Maybe their are other answers. Why? 
> It is the
> oil well owners that are making out like bandits, not the 
> refineries & local
> gas stations. Also oil speculators are making out like bandits & 
> should be
> taken out of the loop somehow. I agree that oil well drilling 
> should be
> opened on both coasts & in ANWAR in Alaska. However, opening them 
> will not
> lower oil prices or probably even slow their climb, as current oil 
> pricesare world market driven & OPEC is able to maintain these 
> prices by
> controlling supply. We need to greatly decrease oil consumption in 
> the USA.
> We should issue wavers from our DOT/EPA standards for any car that 
> gets over
> 50 MPG (see www.40mpg.org) provided they meet equilivant European or
> Japanese standards which are almost as strict as ours, but current 
> technicaldifferences are keeping high mileage cars from our 
> shores. Detroit knows how
> to build these cars as they do make them in Europe. We should also 
> highlysubsidize the plug in hybrids that are coming on line in a 
> couple years,
> provided they have a battery range of 40 miles or more. It is 
> understoodthat 80% of drivers drive less than 40 miles a day, 80 % 
> of the time. Can
> you imagine what a dent in oil consumption this would make? The 
> rising price
> of diesel is causing rising food & other prices. What will the 
> cost of $10
> or $12 a gallon diesel do to our standard of living? Think about 
> this before
> condemning oil nationalization. But maybe there are other ways to 
> controlwhat will be the downfall of our nation & much of the world.
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