[Vwdiesel] New York Times article on '09 Jetta TDI...

Wed Nov 26 07:30:00 PST 2008

I don't work for a dealership, I just purchased the DVD manuals off of ebay.

But you can also use www.ebahn.com (aka bentley) and a timed account for
$30/3 day to $80/year
or just drop me an email  :))
**Note to the rest of you on this list: it's an A4 DVD manual set, if you
need anything

If you've got both the locking pins, it should be pretty easy.

Let me know how it goes.
Good luck.
Brian

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Brian, thanks again, where did you get this, you work for a dealership I
> guess?
> Once I downloaded the XPS viewer package from MS I can not view the 12 page
> doc and have printed as well.
> I hate having to hand the machanic all the parts, the G12 coolant, this
> document and then pay him $500 for labor his is going to Bang me for this
> job.
> I does show that there is no need to even remove the valve cover or the
> vacume pump on the back of the head, there is not locking plate for the back
> of the cam like on an IDI motor.  I have these locking pins, I think I got
> these some months back, anyway.
>
> I think I am going to do this job.  I have the entire week off next week
> and was planning on working on my house, but may have to take 1 day to do
> this job and 1 night, with some heat in the garage, it should be fine.
>
> THANKS again, I will take some pics to help with this job for you when you
> get there.
>
>
> Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
> 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
> 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :)
> 92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :)
> 70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* brian gochnauer <brian at gochnauer.net>
> *To:* Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:51:26 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwdiesel] New York Times article on '09 Jetta TDI...
>
> I created a file for the timing belt for the 04' Jetta BEW engine. I'll try
> to attach it and see if it goes through.
>
> On 11/25/08, brian gochnauer <brian at gochnauer.net> wrote:
>>
>> They don't show a locking bar.
>> A pin on the camshaft and a 'toothed' plate with a pin that indexes the
>> crankshaft. (I found on ebay.uk.co)
>> Definitely takes special tools, I hope the guy has them!
>> I haven't read it completely but what I don't get is if the only other
>> pulley left is the tensioner, unless you skip a tooth on the belt what other
>> adjustment is there left???
>>
>>
>>  On 11/25/08, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   I kind of had a feeling you do not even remove it.  What about the
>>> locking bar, I guess when you remove the vacume pump at the end of the head,
>>> it goes in there to lock the cam in place.  That same slot must drive the
>>> vacume pump.
>>> I need to break out my book.  I have seen detailed instructions on how to
>>> change timing belt on normal TDI, but not on our BEW PD motors.  I know they
>>> guy doing the work has never done one of these, and I am paying him,
>>> right....I hate that.
>>> He is good german mechanic and diesel guy, so I am not that scared.
>>>
>>> If you have it great.  I will break out the book on Thursday morning
>>> before family comes.
>>> When you need your complete timing belt kit, www.tdiparts.com has the
>>> complete kit and best price I found anywhere.
>>> Great guys too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
>>> 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
>>> 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :)
>>> 92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :)
>>> 70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* brian gochnauer <brian at gochnauer.net>
>>> *To:* vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:26:50 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vwdiesel] New York Times article on '09 Jetta TDI...
>>>
>>> I have a '04 Jetta with a BEW with 91,000 so I was looking at my eBahn
>>> manual on CDROM and it says nothing about removing the valve cover.
>>> Several
>>> other models you do have to remove the valve cover to install a timing
>>> gauge
>>> but not on the BEW.
>>> I'll try and make a PDF of the manual if you want.
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/25/08, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Hayden, that clears it up.
>>> > Hey, you may know this or someone else on this great list, on my 04
>>> Jetta,
>>> > I am paying a guy next week to do the Timing belt change.  I can not
>>> confirm
>>> > if I can re-use the valve cover / gasget on the PD engine.  The BEW
>>> motor
>>> > has an all in one molded valve cover and gasget, at $119 bucks.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=u3111t553bfdqg55t2or1r2s&makeid=800026@VW&modelid=1427116@JETTA%20TDI%20
>>> (BEW%20ENGINE)&year=2004&cid=20 at Engine
>>> %20Parts,%20Seals%20%26%20Gaskets&gid=5772 at Valve%20Cover%20Gasket
>>> >
>>> > I have the complete change kit from TDIparts.com<http://tdiparts.com/>,
>>> they do not even sell the
>>> > valve cover, so, since the kit they sell is so 100% complete, I do not
>>> think
>>> > I need a new valve cover.  I should be able to re-use the one on the
>>> motor
>>> > at least once or twice.  It has never been off to my knowledge.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
>>> > 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
>>> > 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :)
>>> > 92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :)
>>> > 70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > From: Hayden Chasteen <dieseltdi at verizon.net>
>>> > To: Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>
>>> > Cc: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:28:20 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] New York Times article on '09 Jetta TDI...
>>> >
>>> > Remember, the engine in the Jetta is much bigger (2.0l 140 hp?) and the
>>> > current A5 design is as big and as heavy as the 90's B4 Passat so
>>> mileage is
>>> > lower just because of those factors. Our older diesels are lighter,
>>> smaller
>>> > and have much smaller engines.  Also VW didn't like the EPA mileage and
>>> had
>>> > the car tested at a different facility and they found that they got 3-4
>>> > miles per gallon better than the EPA test cycle.  There has been a big
>>> > discussion of this over on the TDIclub site.  BTW if it wasn't for the
>>> > common rail injection system, fuel economy would have been much worse
>>> and
>>> > they would never be able to meet emission standards.  Unfortunately VW
>>> says
>>> > B5 (biodiesel) only for these new engines.  Not a very green option but
>>> > apparently due to the emission system.  There are a few guys on the
>>> TDIclub
>>> > that are testing B100 in an 09 to see if there are problems.  So far,
>>> > biggest problem seems to be oil dilution by fuel bypass.  One reported
>>> an
>>> > increase of almost a quart in one oil change cycle.  No one is sure the
>>> > cause of this yet but it may be due to bypassing of the rings during
>>> the
>>> > break-in period.  Some antidotal evidence is that biodiesel is actually
>>> > better for the after burn catalyst emission system but no specific data
>>> yet.
>>> > Hayden
>>> >
>>> > "Those who would sacrifice Liberty for Security, deserve neither
>>> Liberty
>>> > nor Security." B. Franklin
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Belman" <
>>> dieselwesty at yahoo.com>
>>> > To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:50 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] New York Times article on '09 Jetta TDI...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Mark for the link, great artical. I remember reading an artical
>>> > similar to this in 2003 on the A4 TDI.
>>> > I am confussed, this is the second time I have seen this VERY low MPG
>>> > stats, are they talking about the TDI or Gas I wonder.
>>> >
>>> > "
>>> > The Jetta is frugal in the middle years, with a rating of 30 miles a
>>> gallon
>>> > in town and 41 on the highway. The tiny two-seat Smart is the only
>>> nonhybrid
>>> > car that can match the 41 m.p.g. rating.
>>> > "
>>> > Humm, these cars get solid 46-50 all the time, all day long? Not sure
>>> what
>>> > that is all about.
>>> >
>>> > Wow, with the $1,300 Alt. fuel credit, which must be geared towards Bio
>>> > Diesel, yes? I want one of these new ones in maybe 2 years.
>>> > But, that means I may have to part with some other car unless the wife
>>> will
>>> > sell her gasser Vibe, which gets 34-35, not bad for a jap car wrapped
>>> by
>>> > some Pontiac deal. It is a Toyota.
>>> >
>>> > Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
>>> > 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
>>> > 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :)
>>> > 92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :)
>>> > 70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(
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