[Vwdiesel] Bad experience on TDI club

Sat Apr 4 07:35:03 PDT 2009

Luckily, I haven't had any problems with my car yet, just wanted to  
know symptoms etc just in cause.  It is funny, there is one set of  
posts on TDI club that begins with a survey about whether there is a  
widespread PD cam problem and 70% or so say there is.  However in the  
follow up posts, where they are supposed to list if their cars have  
had any problems, the vast majority, probably 80%  have not had a  
problem.  HUMMM.  Luckily, my post was finally answered by someone who  
truly wanted to help instead of having an ax to grind.  Hayden

On Apr 3, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Patrick Dolan wrote:

> Hayden:  Sorry to hear about your time at tdiclub.com.  I have to  
> say, I have read some silliness, but there IS so much ALH  
> information there, it is hard to avoid.  Even more sorry to hear  
> about your PD problem.  While I can not offer any help, I will thank  
> you profusely for spending the money to be VWs guinea pig.  I have  
> avoided PD like the plague since I have a HEUI Navistar (Ford  
> PowerJoke) with all kinds of issues related to the business of using  
> a unit injector (although my understanding is that Bosch deals with  
> dissolved/released air to some extent - Caterpillar/ICH/Ford do  
> not).  Your missfotune, and the massive confusion on places such as  
> tdiclub vindicate that decision.
>
> I made the silly mistake once of asking a critical technical  
> question on the brake forum at the 'tex.  What an incredible waste  
> of time.  I ended up, like you, having to attack the complete lack  
> of technical awareness and correctness (remember, now we're talking  
> about BRAKES for cryin' out loud).  I needed to know the adjustment  
> values for the rear brake pressure limiter when used on the GL/GTI 4  
> wheel disc setup (I had converted my daughter;s MkIII CL).  Not only  
> did NOBODY have a clue (the information is not in Bentley), none  
> seemed to realize how or why you would care!!!!!!
>
> Conversely, in the earlier days of my PowerJoke experience, I got  
> deeply involved with some guys on TheDieselStop on the ultimate  
> intracies of the science surrounding injector filling and the  
> physics of entrained air during a unit injector cycle (thus, why I  
> stayed away from PD).  Out of the thousands of people there, I was  
> able to find four who were genuinely expert in their fields  
> (scientifically, not just technically), and collectively, I believe  
> we came to an understanding of the problem that Ford and IHC never  
> did.  Also affected some cures.
>
> So, I guess my message is that you have to wade through the  
> thousands of ordinary people, the hundreds of complete morons, the  
> handfull of phoney "experts" with an axe to grind and look for the  
> few who really are there to offer expertise and help.  Don't give up  
> on the big sites, just don't lose your objectivity when you are back  
> here with what I have to say is one of the most humble and helpful  
> bunch on the net.
>
> Pat
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dieseltdi at verizon.net
> Date: Friday, April 3, 2009 6:26 pm
> Subject: [Vwdiesel] Bad experience on TDI club
>
>> You know sometimes people can be such a**holes.  I spent over 2
>> hours
>> last weekend searching for information on the TDI club forums
>> regarding the PD engine cam wear problem.  Unfortunately, all I
>> kept
>> finding were idiots arguing over who's fault the problem was and
>> making statements based on opinion instead of facts and pushing
>> one
>> kind of oil over another or some kind of snake oil additive.  Out
>> of
>> desperation, I posted asking three questions:  What are the
>> symptoms
>> in a running engine?  What should I expect to see with the valve
>> cover
>> off?  and, What parts are necessary to fix the problem and who has
>>
>> them? I also posted that I didn't want to hear opinions on oil,
>> workmanship or biodiesel, just the facts. 2 days and over 100
>> views
>> later, nothing, not a single whisper of effort to help me.  So I
>> posted a follow-up complaining about the lack of help.  Well the
>> sh*t
>> hit the fan.  I was accused of everything south of being a Nazi.
>> How
>> dare I expect someone to help me after my nasty post.  How dare I
>> expect any of the high and mighty to bend down and extend a hand.
>>
>> Certainly I should prostrate myself and ask forgiveness from the
>> TDI
>> gods on the list for my perfectly bad attitude before I should
>> expect
>> help.  Finally I was able to get some help so if any of you guys
>> need
>> information on the PD cam wear problem, I can send you the
>> information
>> that I have.  I guess I will simply remove TDI club from my
>> preferred
>> websites.   Seems to have been taken over by huge egos and ricer
>> inspired power jockeys instead of the helpful place it used to be.
>>
>> There are literally thousands of posts arguing over oil types!!!!
>>
>> Can't stomach the infighting any longer.  Needless to say, I won't
>> be
>> recommending the TDI club anymore.  Thanks to all you guys on
>> these
>> lists that jump in immediately to help other folks out.  I hope I
>> can
>> be of help from time to time as needed.  I am no expert but I have
>>
>> played one in my garage and driveway from time to time!  ;^)
>> Hayden
>>
>>
>> BTW for any of you interested in Air Cooled VWs, you can follow
>> the
>> progress of my restoration of my 68 bug on my website listed below.
>> Hayden
>>
>>
>> " Those who are willing to sacrifice Liberty for Security, deserve
>>
>> neither Liberty nor Security."  Ben Franklin
>>
>>
>> Visit my website at:
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>> 2004 Jetta GL PD TDI, Inmotion Tuning Stage 1 Tuning, K&N Filter,
>> ScanGauge II
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>>
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" Those who are willing to sacrifice Liberty for Security, deserve  
neither Liberty nor Security."  Ben Franklin

Visit my website at:  http://mysite.verizon.net/resosxp8/mydieselpages/
Proud owner of:
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD, K&N Filter
2004 Jetta GL PD TDI, Inmotion Tuning Stage 1 Tuning, K&N Filter,  
ScanGauge II
1968 Beetle, my latest project, watch for details
And many, many, many VWs; from a 1946 Beetle (13 Beetles total), to  
Vans (5 - 3 splitties, 2 bay window (both were campers), 1 Vanagon  
Westy, Rabbits (3), Karmen Ghia (1), Jettas (7), Passats (2), Dasher  
(1), New Beetle (1), and Rabbit Pickups (3) most now gone but not  
forgotten.