[Vwdiesel] How cold is it?

Tad tadc at europa.com
Tue Dec 8 10:52:23 PST 2009


I don't give a damn about Gore either way, but I think it's pretty arrogant
for one to think that they know better than the people who spend their lives
studying this stuff(but I guess the same thing applies to VW Diesels!).

The idea that the zillion tons of shit we dump into the atmosphere(and
water, and land, and groundwater, etc) might have a negative effect
certainly seems plausible to me(it certainly isn't helping anything), and
most of the scientists seem to agree.  True that a few don't, but that's
usually true on any subject, isn't it?  And certainly some of those
naysayers are having their pockets lined by big oil money and the like -
see: decades of controversy about the obvious link between tobacco and
cancer.

The alternative, that there's some vast conspiracy to convince everyone that
anthropogenic climate change is real when it's really not, just to... what?
 Make Gore rich?  Ruin the economy?  Sounds like black helicopter stuff to
me.  More likely that people just don't want to believe it, because of the
serious implications regarding changes in our lifestyles and livelyhoods.

I suppose we'll still be having this argument decades from now.  Some people
on either side will never be convinced.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com> wrote:

> sorry, I think he has genuinely sound intentions and is not doing all this
> just for the money, just my feelings on him.
>
> We have a big ride ahead is all I can say.  WE ARE going to see BIG storms,
> BIG snows, flooding, larger forest fires, all of this more and more as the
> cooling and heating effects of our planet get more and more out of whack.
>
>  Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
> 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
> 92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :)
> 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :}
> 70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Chris Geiser <cfgeiser at gmail.com>
> To: LBaird119 at aol.com
> Cc: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 12:57:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] How cold is it?
>
> Gore needed to "fix" the problem in a hurry so he could take credit for
> saving the planet; before it became even more evident that the planet
> really
> doesn't need fixing...
>
> CG
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