[Vwdiesel] '02 Golf starts/dies
brian gochnauer
brian at gochnauer.net
Wed May 27 12:27:05 PDT 2009
Actually I was just trying to help Loren out.
Not prove how smart I am or good I am at RTFM.
On 5/27/09, Tad <tadc at europa.com> wrote:
>
> Nope, just think (actually I'm 110% certain, unless you have some strange
> one-off) that you're mistaken about the 01. Would you mind double-checking?
>
> Actually I guess there's no need, I'm sure there will be numerous other
> listers who will jump in here soon to let us know which one of us is
> correct. :)
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:05 PM, brian gochnauer <brian at gochnauer.net>wrote:
>
>> Tad,
>>
>> I have the searchable cdrom version of the manual which let me choose
>> model
>> and engine.
>> and current UPDATES over the internet.
>>
>> I currently own 3 jettas all running, all factory setups.
>> '90 Jetta 1.6L NA - IP charge pump is in 'rotary' pump, sucks all the way
>> from the tank.
>> '01 Jetta 1.9L TDI - (ALH engine) IP charge pump is in 'rotary' pump AND
>> an
>> electric in the tank.
>> '04 Jetta 1.9L TDI PD (BEW)- tank electric pump and a high pressure
>> 'tandem'
>> pump (7.5 bar, ~110 PSI) on back of the camshaft.
>>
>> So you think I just 'made up' that previous post stating it was for a TDI
>> or maybe didn't see the heading ???
>>
>> *1.9 Liter 4-Cyl. 2V TDI Engine Mechanical, Engine Code(s): ALH*
>>
>> **
>>
>>
>> On 5/27/09, Tad <tadc at europa.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Negative... I think your 04 has a lift pump (it's a PD engine right?)
>> but
>> > the 99.5 - 03 (and I'm pretty sure the earlier A3 chassis as well)
>> models
>> > most certainly do not - at least not from the factory.
>> >
>> > The *only* fuel-moving unit on a 99.5-03 TDI is the injection pump. If
>> > that weren't the case, we wouldn't have so many problems with those damn
>> > T-fitting O-rings!
>> >
>> > Clearly the manual is wrong on this subject (and it wouldn't be the
>> first
>> > time that the manual glossed over something TDI-specific) but you can
>> find a
>> > hundred threads on the TDIClub confirming this fact.
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:46 AM, brian gochnauer <brian at gochnauer.net
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes the TDI does, I own two jettas 01' and '04 both you can hear the
>> pump
>> >> run when I turn the key on, before starting;
>> >> You can actually remove the line from the tank at the filter turn the
>> key
>> >> on
>> >> and see if you get fuel.
>> >>
>> >> The VW manual page excerpt;
>> >> other references on how to remove/install pump for the 1.9 ALH (TDI)
>> >> motor.
>> >> =================================================================
>> >>
>> >> *Volkswagen > A4 > 1999-2006*
>> >>
>> >> *1.9 Liter 4-Cyl. 2V TDI Engine Mechanical, Engine Code(s): ALH*
>> >>
>> >> *20 - Fuel Supply System Components, Removing and Installing*
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >> *Fuel Pump, Checking*
>> >>
>> >> Fuse No. 28 is OK
>> >>
>> >> Briefly operate starter. Fuel pump must activate audibly.
>> >>
>> >> Switch off ignition.
>> >>
>> >> If fuel pump does not activate:
>> >>
>> >> Proceed with troubleshooting relay-controlled electrical circuits,
>> using
>> >> test system 1466 A : Electrical Wiring Diagrams,
>> >> Troubleshooting and Component Locations , Guided Fault Finding with VAS
>> >> 5051
>> >> =======================================================================
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 5/27/09, Tad <tadc at europa.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> > You (and the manual) must be talking about a gasser.
>> Rotary-injected
>> >> TDIs
>> >> > have no lift pump... er, "suction booster". :)
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:06 AM, brian gochnauer <
>> brian at gochnauer.net
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> My '01 Jetta does. and the '02 Golf manual says the same.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Check fuse 28, is suppose to be the Fuel Pump (in the tank) the
>> germans
>> >> >> call
>> >> >> it a "suction booster" in one section. LOL
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 5/27/09, LBaird119 at aol.com <LBaird119 at aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Do you hear the fuel pump run when you first turn the key on, then
>> >> get
>> >> >> > quiet as it builds pressure?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They have an electric fuel pump? I've never heard one and I
>> >> >> > usually notice those.
>> >> >> > Loren
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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