In a message dated 9/3/2009 10:20:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, brian at gochnauer.net writes: > I put any list as 'suspect' when it puts WD40 in > front of PB Blaster. :) > On that list, "ahead" is actually less effective. 238 lbs to break loose with WD and 214 lbs with PB. Loren