[Vwdiesel] Boosters

Val Christian val at mongo.mongobird.com
Fri Dec 24 23:00:18 PST 2010


I concur with that myth, but does anyone have peer reviewed articles on 
the pulse desulfinators?  I've read the patents, but I haven't seen any
objective testing.  

I have several smart chargers with this feature.  Notably, if you want to 
use it, you must disconnect (isolate) the battery.  It is not clear to me
that I have had any better results with this, than if I kept a trickle
charger on the battery.  The trickle charger would have kept it fully charged.



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> I use a battery tender on my camper battery that also desulfinates (sp?) the battery with high energy pulses of some sort.  Since this is the major reason lead acid batteries go bad, it is a good thing to do.  Battery is now 2 years old but has spent most of its time sitting in my garage rather than being used on the camper.  BTW it is a myth that a battery will go bad if it sits on a concrete floor.  Hayden
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> On Dec 24, 2010, at 10:15 PM, William J Toensing wrote:
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> > I can highly endorse these "battery tender" type trickle chargers for
> > greatly extending battery life. My experience has been they can triple
> > battery life. I bought a used  Rockwood diesel pusher motorhome (which is
> > for sale) in 1999 & the two engine batteries (12 V in parallel) which were
> > on the motorhome when I bought it are still going strong & must be at least
> > 12 years old, thanks to a battery tender which I have left connected to the
> > motorhome. These float chargers cost from half the price of a battery to as
> > little as $10 at Harbor Freight. To bad auto manufacturers don't inbed solar
> > cells in the dashboards & rear package shelves of new cars. The only car
> > that I think has such an option is the Toyota Prius.
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> > As an aside, I have been having computer problems. My old computer which
> > runs XP died. My new computer, which runs Windows 7 seems to require a whole
> > new learning curve which I don't understand. I thought this posting had
> > disapeared & then reappeared, fortunatly. If some postings come thru that
> > look like they are half complete, blame my lack of Windows 7 skills.
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> > Bill Toensing, Nevada City, CA
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> > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 3:00 PM, James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:
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> >> I have one too, same deal.
> >> 12 v socket that is fairly handy, charges easy, can hook it up in the dark
> >> (it won't turn on the relay that powers the cables if the polarity is off),
> >> but it is a small thing, and certainly will not boost a dead battery, but,
> >> most boosts happen because the host needs just a little push to get sparked
> >> up, so for that it is fairly handy.
> >> I keep one around for the stock car mostly, if there is a charging system
> >> problem that lowers battery voltage during a race.    I have a voltage reg
> >> going to the hei, to feed it 18v regardless of input voltage, to reduce
> >> horsepower losses from lower spark voltage... so really if it starts with
> >> the battery pack helping, and there are enough electrons left in the
> >> battery, it runs at full power. The boost pack is just the thing, handier
> >> than a battery and cables, but small.
> >> IIRC, the first ones were horrible expensive, but could put out current
> >> like
> >> a hot damn- had big nicads in it. They would jump start rocks.
> >> -another farmer jim, who does use a smart charge, and solar tenders....
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Val Christian
> >> Sent: December-24-10 4:07 PM
> >> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> >> Subject: [Vwdiesel] Boosters
> >> 
> >> Yep, battery boosters, and in jump start packs.
> >> 
> >> Farmer Jim down the road, says he gets his 12 cyl combine going with one
> >> of them.  Debugging a car, he dropped on off for me to play with.
> >> Interstate 3000.  LEDs on the clamps, long, but not long enough clamps,
> >> polarity wrong warnings, a go/no-go meter for the onboard battery,
> >> a roadsize flasher, and so on.
> >> 
> >> So I tried it.  Yep it boosted things, but I'm not sure that it was any
> >> different than a battery with jumper cables.  I returned it before I took
> >> it apart.
> >> 
> >> So are these things something like a 20 Ah battery, and other than the
> >> onboard charger, the warning electronics, and the cute little LEDs in the
> >> jumper clamps, is there any fancy electronics?  Or is it simply a battery,
> >> with a switch, in parallel with your existing, presumably cranked-out
> >> battery?
> >> 
> >> Anyone know?
> >> 
> >> Diesel relevancy:  Eventually, your diesel will need a jump.  If the other
> >> engine has a 130+ Amp alternator, and you have 4 ga or better cables, your
> >> life is always easier.
> >> 
> >> ps: Farmer Jim should consider a solar trickle charger for the combines
> >> parked outside, and a smart charger for the batteries inside.  Actually,
> >> I think one of the combines already has one...
> >> 
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