[Vwdiesel] Vwdiesel Digest, Vol 75, Issue 17

[Jeff Rakus]

Hello gentlemen, Just wondering if anyone has heard from Scott Kair?
Thanks ,

Jeff Rakús



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> Subject: Vwdiesel Digest, Vol 75, Issue 17
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:00:02 -0800
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>    1. Re: Nice Audi (mark shepherd)
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:45:47 -0000
> From: "mark shepherd" <mark at shepher.fsnet.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Nice Audi
> To: "vw fans" <Vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
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> It woulsd appear thatonly I like it :o(
> 
> I'm sure ZZTop could put it on the front cover of a pending 'green' album... 
> Although I get the impression, that the fuel economy was poor.
> 
> Mark
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Herold, Walter L" <Walter.Herold at cengllc.com>
> To: "'Tad'" <tadc at europa.com>; <ross at hypertools.com>
> Cc: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:15 AM
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> > DKW stands for "Deutsche Kraftwagen Werke" meaning "German Motorcar 
> > Works". ...
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> > From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Tad
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:26 PM
> > To: ross at hypertools.com
> > Cc: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Nice Audi
> >
> > So Oldsmobile (obviously), and... what's the other company named after 
> > Olds?
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 4:10 PM, David Ross <ross at hypertools.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Full credit to Mr. Toensing in spite of misspelling "Horch".
> >>
> >> August Horch is (almost) in the exclusive company of Ransom E. Olds, in
> >> that he (almost) had two auto manufacturing companies named after him -
> >> Horch & Audi.  "Almost", because Audi is the latin word for the German
> >> Horch, meaning 'hear' or 'hark' or 'listen'.
> >>
> >> This and much more fascinating German auto trivia at "The History of the
> >> Four Rings" (Audi Official History--Copyright Audi AG) at:
> >> <http://www.seriouswheels.com/art-four-rings-1.htm>
> >>
> >> Dave Ross    N7EPI
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> William J Toensing wrote:
> >> > The 4 circles represents the Auto Union or the merger of Horsh, 
> >> > Wanderer,
> >> Audi, & DKW. As I recall, stood for in German, "The Small Wonder". The 
> >> Horsh
> >> was an expensive car that competed with the Maybach  & big Mercedes. It &
> >> the Wandurer died during WW2. After the war, as I recall, what ended up 
> >> in
> >> the DDR or East Germany of Auto Union became the Wartburg.
> >> > Back in 1964 I owned for a short period of time, a 1958 DKW having
> >> swapped a rusty 1955 Nash Ambassador V-8 for it. It had a 4 speed
> >> transmission on the steering column but the shift patturn was backwards, 
> >> as
> >> I recall. If I recall correctly, low was where low was on an American 3
> >> speed column shift. second was where reverse was on an American car, 3rd 
> >> was
> >> where high was on an American car, & the DKW high was where 2ed was on am
> >> American car. The DKW had a 2 cycle engine & mine was a 2 door hardtop.
> >> > Bill Toensing, Nevada City, CA
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 03:42:52 -0800
> From: "William J Toensing" <toensing at wildblue.net>
> Subject: [Vwdiesel] Nice Audi
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> I have been an auto buff & amateur auto historian almost all my 76 years of my life. I was told I could tell almost every car on the road at age 3 & never lost interest since. There are interesting parallels with Olds & Henry Ford. Also, how many of you knew Henry Ford founded Cadillac? As Paul Harvey used to say, here is the rest of the story. 
> Here is a rough timeline. In 1770, the French build the world's first known self propelled motor vehicle while the USA was still a colony of Britton. The Cugnot steam wagon, actually a self propelled tractor to pull cannons for the French Army. It still exists & is on display at the Museum of Arts & Meters in Paris, France & I have seen it & actually  touched it. 1886, Gotleb Daimler builds the first gasoline powered self propelled. In 1891, Panhard is the first to start the serial production of a motor vehicle, that is, build a car before it is sold. Peugeot starts production shortly afterwards. Note, what became Mercedes Benz did not start serial production of autos till 1902. Prior Daimler Benz cars prior to then were all custom built pre-ordered vehicles. Stories about these horseless carriages or automobiles as they were named in France were carried in in an American publication, The Scientific American. The first production automobile in the USA was from the Duryea shortly followed  by a number of others including Winton which soon became a leading producer of automobiles by the turn of the 20th century. In 1896, Henry Ford his first car while an employee of the Detroit Edison Co. A big problem then as now, in starting a business was to find financial backers. In 1899, Ford founded the Detroit Auto Co but wasn't very successful. In 1901 or '02, Henry Ford built a race car & beat Alexander Winton in a car race. This enabled Henry Ford to form his second auto venture, the Henry Ford Co. Henry designed a car but his investors didn't like the 2 cylinder engine Ford designed nor Henry's wanting to use corporate funds to continue racing to promote the company, & in general, didn't get along with his investors, so they brought in Henry Leland to build a better engine, fired Ford giving him $900 in severance pay. Ford then went on to incorporate the Ford Motor Co. on 16 June 1903, & started production of the Model A Fordmobile, taking with him the plans or copies of the planed Ford at the Henry Ford Co, which still had the plans that Henry designed. As a result,  Henry Leland & the investors had to find a new name for their company so they renamed it Cadillac, after the French explorer who founded Detroit. 
> Ransom E Olds & his father had started a steam engine business & in 1897, decided to start building automobiles, but didn't get his assembly line going till 1901 & rapidly became the volume producer of cars in the USA. However, in 1904, Olds couldn't get along with his investors, who bought Olds out but from what happened at the Henry Ford Co, paid Olds a considerable amount of money, not the $900 Ford got, but in the sale contract said Olds could not use the name Olds or Oldsmobile in any further automotive venture.
> Reo built autos thru 1936, then gave up auto production to concentrate on truck production. An interesting note, in 1934 Reo introduced the first automatic or at least semi-automatic gear box, the Reo "Self Shifter".
> Bill Toensing, Nevada City, CA
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