[Vwdiesel] Turbine blade nicks

Stephen Kraus ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 19 06:32:34 PST 2012


I did a simple test to find the leak: filled the intake and exhaust ports
with WD-40 and watched for leaks from the valve. All the others held their
liquid....the intake on #2 had a large streak come out.

Yeah, the valve seals, guides, and retainers all cost me about $40 all
together.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Cool, that is Proof of where the oil came from for sure.
> I would think valve guides for that head are cheap and seals as well,
> sound like you fixed up the bottom end and figured the top end was good to
> go, but it got you back for not doing the head overhaul at the same time,
> maybe.
> you will get it going again, it just may take longer.
>
>
> Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
> 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :<)
> 04 Golf TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp Tiptronic Auto -- running :<)
> 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :<)
> 70 Type 1 stock Elm Green Beetle -- Under Restoration :-)
>   *From:* Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>
> *To:* Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>; vw fans <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2012 9:15 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwdiesel] Turbine blade nicks
>
> The engine has 279,000 miles on it, it has new piston rings and connecting
> rod bearings and main bearings, but you are dead on.
>
> I've pulled apart the head and on the #2 intake valve the valve guide just
> fell right out, thankfully I'd already ordered new guides and the valve
> guide is just out of spec, the new guide is in tight.
>
> All the valves seem fine, the worst I've had to do is clean them up a bit
> and re-seat them.
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>  That is good news that all pistons are the same hieght extention.
> how many miles on this motor before this happened.  Sounds like you need
> valve job on head, guide seals, guides, and maybe replace a few valves.
> but, with no extra money, going to be hard to do.
>
>
> Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
> 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :<)
> 04 Golf TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp Tiptronic Auto -- running :<)
> 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :<)
> 70 Type 1 stock Elm Green Beetle -- Under Restoration :-)
>   *From:* Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>
> *To:* Travis . <tgott at hotmail.com>; vw fans <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:14 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwdiesel] Turbine blade nicks
>
> I know it hydrolocked because it wouldn't turn over by hand via the
> crankshaft till I pulled the injector on #2 and it puked out oil.
>
> I think there may have been a leak right by the turbo inlet, the hose that
> goes to the turbo inlet appears to be loose.
>
> Rod isn't bent, the readings are exact. The starter barely started turning
> over when it locked, not much momentum was going yet.
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Travis . <tgott at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > My first thought is what is your air filer and air intake path look like?
> > Is there any dust anywhere in there? If so-you "dusted" your turbo. More
> > common then you think in the construction/mining industry with as much
> > equipment as they have and the hours they get. A leak pre turbo will suck
> > in dirt. A leak  after turbo will just blow out compressed air so it
> isn't
> > as big of an issue after the turbo.
> >
> > Are you saying the oil was getting through from the camshaft side of the
> > head through the valve seal and after shut down it would leak enough
> > through to hydro lock? How did you know you hydro locked? If you found it
> > by turning the engine over then I can't believe you don't have a bent
> rod.
> > Not to mention the valve seal wouldn't have failed overnight so you
> likely
> > did several mini hydro locks before finally catching it.
> >
> > Sorry-no spare AHU turbo. I have a 17/22 VNT turbo waiting for install
> > though along with some PD150 injectors. Too bad I need the clutch and
> > exhaust before I even attempt that not to mention the intercooler tract
> > upgrade. I do have my old AAZ turbo though I was keeping so I could
> rebuild
> > someday if needed. Far as I know it worked before pulling-I just didn't
> > trusted used turbos at that point in my life. I have more experience now.
> > Travis
> >
> >
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