[Vwdiesel] Piston Ring questions

[Stephen Kraus]

Well, to be honest I already had the Goetze Piston ring kit from my last
rebuild, they accidentally sent me two kits. So I'm just buying the 2nd
compression rings, I don't feel like sending mine off to be modified.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:14 PM, <lbaird119 at aol.com> wrote:

>   While somewhat true, you're buying two sets of rings that way.  You can
> also send your second ring in to be modified for less but it has to be cast
> rather than chromed.  Goetze are always a chromed second I believe.  Total
> Seal claims to have less outward pressure and therefore less drag and wear
> than stock rings too.  I've done one recut and the rest I've done in full
> sets.  Power increase, while small, could be felt on my 1.5.  MPG went up
> about 1mpg as well.  Blowyby nearly disappears.
>     Loren
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>
> To: lbaird119 <lbaird119 at aol.com>; vw fans <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> Sent: Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:09 am
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Piston Ring questions
>
> Found it. The 1.7l rings they sell are the correct bore (79.5mm)
>
> So, that is what I'll order. From what I'm reading on TDIClub though, I
> only need the 2nd compression ring, stop Goetze top and oil rings are fine.
> Is that true?
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:04 PM, <lbaird119 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>   Do a little research and find out the bore dia and ring widths then
>> just call to order.  When I got rings for the 1.5, 1.6 and 5 cyl they
>> weren't even listed but were available no problem and they knew the correct
>> ones for them.  I didn't even have to know the sizes other than my overbore
>> amount.
>>     Loren
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>
>> To: lbaird119 <lbaird119 at aol.com>; vw fans <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:04 am
>> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Piston Ring questions
>>
>>
>>
>>  Question: I'm at Total Seals website, but for 1998 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
>> its showing as a 1.7l instead of 1.9l
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:16 AM, <lbaird119 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Smoke at startup.  Oil smoke or unburned fuel smoke?  Typically I'd say
>> startup smoke wouldn't likely be rings but I've experienced where it was.
>>  Generally I'd first blame worn injectors.  Otherwise valve stem seals and
>> the occasional turbo are more soon to blame on the TDI motors, so it seems.
>>  Not too common for the seals on those either.
>>
>>   Boring's not bad.  Clean the block well and strip it.  You should be
>> able to get it done for $20/hole or less.  It's the pistons that get you!
>>  :-)  As stated, if it needs bored, it's not worth doing wrong.  You'll get
>> about 30K at best and use oil the whole time.  Experienced that one too,
>> all on the older, IDI engines of course.  Only way to tell is to mic the
>> bores.  If the pistons are worn a bit and cylinders a bit, new rings might
>> just do but if the bore's worn beyond spec, it's just a time consuming
>> band-aid.
>>
>>   How much blowby?  If you compare it to a gasser, a diesel will always
>> shock you at how much blowby it has but is still perfectly fine.  If you
>> don't like blowby, spend some more money (how much more depends on if
>> you're buying Co-fap or Goetze rings!) and buy Total Seal rings.  There
>> will be little blowby and once the boost hits, it goes almost completely
>> away!  :-)  Well worth it IMO.
>>      Loren
>>
>>
>>
>>
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