[Vwdiesel] winter adventure

[Stephen Kraus]

Colorado and Wyoming have chain laws.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Roger Brown <r.c.brown at ieee.org> wrote:

> Growing up in Washington, I never remember seeing any "chains required"
> type signs, seems they they were only "chains or snow tires recommended"
> type signs.
>
> I think a lot of the time in California, CalTrans will leave the chain
> signs up longer than required.  They make use of all the chained wheels to
> chew up the compact snow on the pavement so that when the clouds clear, the
> roads will melt clear faster.  I've been in the 4WD numerous times with
> chain controls up and was mostly unable to shift into 4WD because of all
> the bare pavement.  But at least I did not have to grind along with chains
> on like all the 2WDs did.  Just kept a hand on the transfer case shifter
> and popped it into 4WD in the shaded corners where it was a little slick.
>
> But yes, I usually prefer just some good all season or winter tires and
> drive w/o chains.  I used to have a set of 145-R13 Kleber snow tires and
> those things were awesome on the VW.  Unless you jammed on the brakes or
> did something stupid, they just hooked up like crazy.  I remember one
> Sierra ski trip with those and the road looked clear but it did feel a
> little slippery.  We stopped for a break and the pavement was just a sheet
> of black ice.  I almost fell down stepping out of the vehicle it was so
> slippery.  Finally had to throw the tires away when the rubber cracked and
> moisture got in and rusted the steel belts.
>
>
> On 1/9/2013 2:34 PM, Tad wrote:
>
>> Agree about chains on the front of the VW and about seemingly arbitrary
>> chain requirements.
>>
>> Fortunately they don't seem to do any enforcement around here, so I just
>> use my judgement
>> and ignore the signs.  on a couple occasions I've put my chains on, only
>> to find that the
>> road is basically bare pavement and they apparently hadn't gotten around
>> to changing the
>> signs. :(
>>
>> I've found that my Golf with all-season tires does just fine as long as
>> the road is
>> decently sanded.  The only time it gets dicey is on glare ice or when the
>> snow is coming
>> down so fast that the sand gets buried.
>>
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