[Vwdiesel] It pours

Fri Jul 26 23:25:40 PDT 2013

  A few possibilities come to mind.  One is that it got hot, the rings lost temper and you got massive blowby.  Another is that the pistons started to gall and the scraped off metal got the rings stuck.  Also could be semi-coincidental that you're running the wrong oil, and the rings were coked up, got hot and stuck.  (All that being if the exhaust smelled like burning oil).  If it just smelled like poorly burned diesel, could be a blown head gasket and a damaged injector shooting such that it's spewing unburned fuel.
  Of course a cat will screw with what it smells like.
     Loren

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent McBeigh <vrmcbeigh at gmail.com>
To: Mark Shepherd <mark at shepher.fsnet.co.uk>
Cc: vw fans <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 26, 2013 11:26 am
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] It pours

I was on a back road with no real shoulder or driveway for miles. I saw the
oolant light then saw the gauge spike to max and then level out to center.
ot long after that, the oil warning went on and my engine stopped running.
ny attempt to restart until it cooled resulted in no cranking at all and
very light in my car dimming severely.
When I pulled over, the engine was billowing blueish smoke with a nasty
dour (not coolant) and my water pump pulley was crooked. I checked the
ipstick and there was plenty of oil (read on the full mark), there was
moke billowing out of my oil cap and dipstick tube when I removed them to
heck.
This is a 1999 Mk3, AHU with almost 221k miles.
n Jul 26, 2013 2:17 PM, "Mark Shepherd" <mark at shepher.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> I don't think that your engine was truely seized, as you were able to
 restart later.
 Seeing as you spotted the warning lights, I assume you drove gingerly for
 the next mile or so.
 Not sure what could have hit your pump. If it's one of the last of the old
 style 4 cylinder types, I suspect it's failed on the cheap bushing of the
 last of the
 production...
 I drove that [this] old engine for a week with oil level so low that the
 vacuum pump would have to rely on centrifuge to create a vacuum. [For some
 reason
 there is no high pressure warning sender on the filter housing]! only one
 for the head, and that is satisfied with only a few psi.

 I also drove for 2 miles towing a caravan with no water after my top hose
 split catastrophically covering my windscreen with water; but I had thought
 it was
 the passing 4 x 4 showing off with it's super-dooper screen wash. Alas no
 water level alarm...

 Symptoms were a drop in water temp[gauge-wise] followed by a slow rise...
 I too was on a no-stopping interstate, 2 miles was first exit... This was
 the
 corroded headgasket event that led me to hand skim that head years ago,
 and the rest is history...:o)

 So basically things may not be as bad as you think...
 Mark

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 Message Received: Jul 26 2013, 02:56 PM
 From: "Vincent McBeigh"
 To: "Brian and Ruth Decker"
 Cc: "vw fans"
 Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] It pours

 The engine is probably hosed, then. I didn't have the luxury of pulling
 over immediately due to where I was on the particular stretch of road. It
 may have toasted my engine, but at least I could get to a safe location for
 my passengers.

 It seems like it's my water pump that got eaten. I think something kicked
 up from the road and hit it or got caught in the belt. Luckily, as a road
 hazard, my insurance should cover it.
 On Jul 26, 2013 8:42 AM, "Brian and Ruth Decker"
 wrote:

 > One thing I have learned on the older VW diesels is when the coolant
 light
 > comes on I shut off the engine and coast to a stop to find out why. If I
 do
 > that and I have no coolant I have usually blown a coolant hose, water
 pump
 > belt or a head gasket. With the coolant hose or belt I just replace and
 > it's
 > good. About the same with the head gasket except it takes a little
 longer.
 > If one drives even a mile I find that it usually ruins a piston or two
 and
 > at least a rebore is in line.
 > Brian Decker
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com]
 On
 > Behalf Of Vincent McBeigh
 > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:37 PM
 > To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
 > Subject: [Vwdiesel] It pours
 >
 > Hi, all
 >
 > My 1999 Mk3 Jetta AHU has been giving me all sorts of trouble lately. I
 had
 > to replace the alternator in an AutoZone parking lot in NY, and back here
 > in
 > NH, I had my coolant light and oil pressure light come on in that order,
 > got
 > blue smoke from under my hood and out my tailpipe, then the engine seized
 > (it seems). This all happened fairly rapidly. My coolant tank is bone
 dry,
 > but I still have plenty of oil on the dip stick.
 >
 > Any ideas?
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > Vincent
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