[Vwdiesel] Stranded-Anti Theft problem

[Shalyn Shourds]

Is it even possible for the car to start with the clutch let out?  I don't know at what point in the chain of events the car won't let the engine start if the clutch is not pushed in.  Is it that it won't crank or that it won't start and run or both?  Never tried to roll start my TDI.  I have, for my '00, a key blade that doesn't have a chip in it and therefore won't fully start the car--it'll just catch and immediately shut down.  I just ran out and checked, in that condition, the anti-theft light flashes afterward, but not the glow plug light.  I would think you have something else going on, though there were several iterations of the immobilizer system and I don't know what changes there are between.  

Separately, if anyone in D/FW knows someone that can get the SKC out of a cluster, PM me.  I really really need that.  That chipless key is what I have to use to start the car whilst holding the shattered remains of the one original key against the lock cylinder.  I'm ethically opposed to giving the dealer money.  They'll just get dependent on it.  

-Shalyn




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 From: Dave Cook <davevw at yahoo.com>
To: tdi <VW-TDI at yahoogroups.com>; VW Diesel Group <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>; TDI-Conversion Group <TDI-conversion at yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [Vwdiesel] Stranded-Anti Theft problem
 

Hey All-

I'm hoping someone can help out here.

This is a 2002 VW Golf TDI

I went to meet a friend in another town a couple hours away for lunch today.  When we went out to start the Golf, the starter was cranking very slowly.  We initially tried push starting it but with no luck.  So we tried jumping it.  The starter released a bit of smoke, and has been cranking very slowly since.  This is a known crappy "rebuild" starter that has acted up a couple times already but I was hoping for warmer weather to change it out. 

So we tried pull starting it with his truck.

That initially didn't work because of all the snow on the road-when I'd let out the clutch the tires would just slide on the snow rather than force the engine spin.

(I realized this after the first attempt.)

Frozen and hungry at this point, we went to lunch and decided to try again after.  

I was able to make the engine crank by only letting off the clutch when we hit dry patches of pavement, however the engine won't start.  It is cranking as evidenced by the tach registering vs earlier when the tach wouldn't register due to the tires only sliding.

The problem seems to be anti-theft system is preventing the car from starting.  The anti theft and the glow plug light are flashing when the ignition is on, even after the rest of the lights go off.  I'm afraid that all the tries of roll-starting without success due to sliding on the ice might have tripped something in the anti theft system.

I do have a VAG-COM cable with me, though I don't know for sure if it will work with my friend's Mac that I'm currently typing this on.

The car is outside with the block heater plugged in and battery disconnected hoping that will reset whatever the problem is.

Anyone have any other ideas?

Thanks,
 
Dave Cook
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