[Vwdiesel] trip with Jetta GTD
Bryan Belman
dieselwesty at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 11 20:21:37 PDT 2015
I had a 90 Audi 200 with the same water cooled turbo. Never an issue with that at all and it was rusted to all hell on the outside.It is either the oil cooler/warmer or the head gasket.
Sad to say, bets are it is the head gasket.I have a known good oil cooler I will send you, change that first, much easier path then the external oil cooler setup and or changing the head gasket.
Rule out the EASY stuff first, I have, we have all made that mistake too many times.
It is a 1.6 stock size, I upgraded the size on my 1.9NA to the passat one, much bigger and it cools things a little better.
let me know if you would like me to send it down Hayden. Not a problem at all.
Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD BEW, 100hp, 5sp -- running :<)
04 Golf TDI PD BEW, 100hp, 5sp Tiptronic Auto -- running :<)
82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA 1Y -- running :<)
70 Type 1 Beetle -- Under Restoration forever:-)
From: Andrew .Libby <libbybapa at gmail.com>
To: Hayden Chasteen <dieseltdi at verizon.net>
Cc: vw fans <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] trip with Jetta GTD
Is your Jetta a Euro import GTD? If it is North American engine then the
turbo is not water cooled. Regardless, I do not believe that the water
cooled turbo has any seals that could leak coolant to oil. I believe that
the only way that would happen at the turbo would be a crack in the center
cartridge.
Most likely is that the oil/water heat exchanger has failed internally.
You can take it out, plug one coolant opening, install a hose and tire
valve stem/shrader valve in the other, insert the cooler into a bucket of
wire and apply mild air pressure to the shrader valve. Bubbles from one of
the oil openings would indicate a failed cooler. I'm sure if you did a
search you could find a video of a vw cooler being tested.
Next most likely would be a failed head gasket that is allowing leakage
between the high pressure oil channel between cyl 3 and cyl 4 and a nearby
coolant passage.
A couple other less likely possibilities that you did not mention are a
cracked block or a cracked head between the pressurized oil gallery and the
coolant.
Bear in mind that for oil to enter the coolant, it has to be a leak between
a pressurized oil area and the coolant. A leak between the coolant and a
non-pressurized oil area (valve cover/block) will send coolant into the
sump rather than oil into the coolant.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:31 PM, <dieseltdi at verizon.net> wrote:
> Well I was going to spend this email talking about the great trip I just
> took with my Jetta GTD and my little tent trailer that I restored but when
> I went out to change the oil and check fluids, I discovered that something
> bad HAD happened on the long trip. Apparently on the last leg home
> yesterday, I developed an oil leak into the cooling system. I know it
> started yesterday because the evening before, I have checked the coolant to
> make sure I had plenty because I have the cursed slow leak from the heater
> valve and there was nothing in the coolant tank but coolant. Well today I
> found a nice scum of black oil floating on the top of the coolant and
> smearing the walls of the coolant tank. Now, just to set the stage, the
> car never overheated on the trip, used only about ½ quart of oil and all
> gauges stayed within acceptable limits including the EGT which I kept below
> 1100 degrees F post turbo. So I guess my thinking runs in this order: 1)
> Oil could be leaking between the seals in the head gasket, It has always
> been weepy since I got the car but no huge external shows of oil. 2)
> something in the “oil cooler” has failed or 3) some seal in the oil/water
> cooled turbo has failed. (I am hoping that this isn’t it as I really don’t
> want to get a turbo rebuilt.) So what say yea all? I intend to flush out
> the system with some degreaser and stay easy on the car until I figure out
> what to do. Car runs fine, no real smoke except on hard acceleration,
> engine sounds about the same, maybe a bit “tinny” but nothing I can put my
> head around. Really need the collective wisdom on this one before I dive
> in. Thanks, Hayden
>
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