Re: Audi 5000 was called 100?

[zm@mhcnet.att.com]

Peter Hill writes:
>I'd be interested to see the original article "1990 Audi 100 SUCKS"
>if anybody has saved it.  But I won't listen to a 1970 tale of woe.

I did manage to find the original article. It is included below, together
with selected follow-up posts defending Audis.

Zafer Mehmood
zm@mhcnet.att.com
------------------

Article 75070 of rec.autos:
Path: cbfsb!cbnews!att!linac!uwm.edu!wupost!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!sun-barr!olivea!davepat
From: davepat@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Dave Patterson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: 1990 Audi 100 SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!e+10
Summary: aaaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhh !!!!!!!
Keywords: Break, pop, whirr, click, SNAP! CRACKLE! POP!
Message-ID: <57211@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>
Date: 5 Dec 92 01:08:48 GMT
Sender: news@olivea.atc.olivetti.com
Lines: 48

Well, I can't believe it!  I thought I'd bought a nice, reliable, really
well made German car...  NOT!

In the 1 year 2 months that I've owned this car, the following has
gone wrong, (on separate occasions):

*  The transmission broke after 9100 miles of driving it to and from work.
*  The transmission had to be drained, cleaned, and put back in.
*  The brakes went out. 
*  The buttons on the radio broke.
*  The cruise controller broke.
*  The ECS light keeps coming on, (tried to repair it about 2 or 3 times,
   so far, no luck).
*  The timing keeps going out of whack.
*  The alignment went south, wrecking the front tires, (this happened the
   day after I had brought it in to fix the radio and the ECS light).

on top of which I had taken it in for a few checkup type repairs.  Now, if 
this car weren't under warranty, all this ^^^ would cost quite a few $.  

To top things off, when I last took it in, (see radio/ECS light), when
I brought it home, it had oil/crunge on the windshield, (I had to clean
it off), the alignment was gone, the brakes were bad, and the front 
tires were bald in odd places.  I couldn't take it back that night, as
I had picked it up after work, and the shop had closed for the day.  I 
couldn't take it in the next day, because I had a very important interview
to go to that day, (I'm being laid off on 18 December)...  So, I brought
it in today, and complained rather loudly about all this, and all I got
were blank stares and no one wanted to claim responsibility for 
*anything!*  Next, I called Audi of America, (800-822-2834), and was
kindly told that they would do something, and call me right back.  Well,
I'm waiting, I'm getting grey hairs...  Nothing has happened.

My question to all is:  Is there any *real* legal action that I can take
here?  Do I have a recourse, or am I just another consumer who's been
fucked up one side and down the other by a "German-quality" scheiss-car
like Audi?

Very, very, very unhappily yours,

David M. Patterson
====================


Article 76062 of rec.autos:
Path: cbfsb!cbnews!att!linac!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!qazi
From: qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 1990 Audi 100 SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!e+10
Date: 15 Dec 1992 22:42:56 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <8f=VQ4e00WBLQ2pHET@andrew.cmu.edu> "Joseph D. Mazza" <mazz+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Sounds like deja vu!  Back in 1970 I bought an Audi 100LS in its first
                               ^^^^
>model year.  BIG mistake.  EVERYTHING, and I mean literally EVERYTHING
>went wrong with it.  
>
>...<stuff deleted>...
>
>Ever since my 100LS experience I've avoided Audi's like the plague --
>despite their seemingly high quality/cost ratio and many testimonials
>about how much they've IMPROVED over the years.  Forget it.  They had
>their chance with me.                              


--It's silly of you not to buy an Audi nowadays because of your experience
  with your 1970 100LS.  A company can change itself in 22 years you know!!
  Japanese cars were not the paragons of reliability that they are know.
  Maybe you shouldn't buy a Toyota because they had problems thirty years
  ago.  All newly designed Audis are much more reliable than the olders,
  meaning the new Audi 100.  The 1990 version is based on a design that
  dates back to '83, which is when Audis weren't too good in reliability.
  If you tried a new Audi 100, I'm sure you would change your mind.

--Aamir Qazi

-- 
Article 76063 of rec.autos:
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: 1990 Audi 100 SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!e+10
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 22:21:02 GMT

In article <8f=VQ4e00WBLQ2pHET@andrew.cmu.edu> "Joseph D. Mazza" <mazz+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Sounds like deja vu!  Back in 1970 I bought an Audi 100LS in its first
>model year.  BIG mistake.  EVERYTHING, and I mean literally EVERYTHING
>went wrong with it.  Here's a partial list, from what I haven't managed
>to block out of my memory after 20 years:
...
>Ever since my 100LS experience I've avoided Audi's like the plague --
>despite their seemingly high quality/cost ratio and many testimonials
>about how much they've IMPROVED over the years.  Forget it.  They had
>their chance with me.
...
>I'm sorry about all your problems, but not surprised.  It's just the
>"100" living up to it's proud heritage!

that was 1970.  by the same yardstick, if you had had a '70s era
honda civic (total rustbucket piece of junk), you'd never buy
a new civic because it's such a piece of junk.

-teddy


Article 76184 of rec.autos:
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: 1990 Audi 100 SUCKS !! (a bit long)
Message-ID: <BzDtuo.777@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:35:11 GMT
Lines: 17

In article <1992Dec15.233545.21470@viewlogic.com> brad@buck.viewlogic.com (Bradford Kellogg) writes:
>
>In article <8f=VQ4e00WBLQ2pHET@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Joseph D. Mazza" <mazz+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>|> 
>|> Sounds like deja vu!  Back in 1970 I bought an Audi 100LS in its first
>|> model year.  BIG mistake.  EVERYTHING, and I mean literally EVERYTHING
>|> went wrong with it.  

	Wow, a current opinion based on 1970's info.  Boy I hope we pull out
of Vietnam soon!!!


--