Re: older 4000 Q ?s

["POWELL, GLEN" <GPOWELL@rimail.interlan.com>]

Glen Powell x767 writes:
> What was the first year 4000Q? 83? 84?
> Anyone know if they were available in the US without AC? sunroof?
> power windows? door locks? etc?

As far as I know (and I might be wrong), the first 4000 quattro for the
U.S. was model year 1984, with the early-style front and rear styling,
and old-style dashboard/trim.  The 1984 car also comes with central
locking and manual sunroof standard.  There is also power windows
standard, operating the front doors only.  The rear doors have manual
windows.

          *** HMMMMMMMMM............  my '84 has an electric sunroof.
              Are you sure about the manual roof? Also, I could swear
          I have seen a 4000Q without a sunroof, not sure if it was a
          84 or 85, I thought it was an 85. Perhaps it was a Canadien
          car.....I do know the Ur Quattros have manual roofs due to
          the very low roofline.

          For 1985 the sunroof and rear door windows became electric,
          the interior got the new dashboard and long door map
          pockets, and the differential lock controls became a rotary
          knob rather than a pull-out button.  Exterior wise there's
          new front and rear styling, side rocker panel skirts, and
          covers for the center of the Ronal wheels.  The 1985-1987
          models are essentially unchanged.

          ***** Early (some?) did not have the wheel-bolt covers.
          (I had one)



All U.S. 4000 quattros from 1984-1987 should have A/C standard, and they
all come with the 2226cc 5 cylinder with 115hp.

> I'm trying to determine if the 84 4000SQ at 2820 lbs is the lightest
> of the 4000Qs. I show 2930 lbs for the '86, '85 should be similar.

The 84 should be the lightest.  Given that there is no change in
engine output over the years, it should also be the quickest.
Personally, I like the 84 styling better than the 85-87.  It
looks more like a sport sedan rather than a family sedan.

-Ti
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          Yep. I've done the ol' highway side-by-side roll on in
          5th gear with the 84 and 86, the 84 pulls away from the
          86 pretty nicely. Sometime this summer I'm actually going
          to run the side-by-side at New England Dragway with me and
          my SO driving. We'll switch back-and-forth for fairness
          and compare times. Results to be posted. Oh, the above
          testing was done with the 86 in a high state of tune and
          the 84 un-tuned.

          So I guess the consensus is:
          84 is the first year
          84 is the lightest year
          84 might/might not have had manual/elec/no sunroof
          84 should be/is faster and the best year for auto-x use

          Does anyone have an 84 with a manual roof or no roof?

          THANKS!

          -glen