Re: sway bars counterpoint

[JGOEKE.UNIX11@mailsrv2.eldec.com (JGOEKE)]

To: AUDI

>> I have never seen an stock Audi, or any other FWD/AWD car, lift an
inside
>> front.
>seen any rally videos?

Well, like I said "stock" and I assumed on a flat level surface.  I have
nevered rallied, but I have auto-x a lot.  Sure, I've seen rally cars on
their roofs, but that doesn't represent a senero or normal driving
situation for suspension setup.  The few times you might be able to lift a
inside front (like when the car is half in a ditch) is rare and not the
fastest way, so it shouldn't dictate any setup concerns.

>> Now, the inside rear is quite common for FWD, but not as easy for
>> an AWD.  A bigger front bar will reduce this segnificantly.  The only
>> real draw back from a bigger bar is that it will tend to make the car
>>understeer more (push).  But with a little trailing throttle or braking
>> into turns will help combate this problem, yielding a faster cornering
>> car.  I ran a 1.25" bar on the front of my 4000Q, wishing for more.
>> ---JCG.
>i guess i didn't make it very clear.. with AWD and free wheeling
>differentials, it is important that the car rolls equally on both
>ends, otherwise one inside wheel might lift and spin.

Yeah it wasn't, that's why I mentioned both front and rear.  I agree that
it is important the car roles equally on both ends, that's why I think a
bigger bar is helpful.

>>           ..is a really amazing difference in the ability to accelerate
>>           out of a corner with the diffs locked vs with them open.
>how about scrub?  how bad is it?  is this on the koop or the 4000?
>do you lock the rear diff too or just the center?

There is a significant amount of scrub when dry.  I found the car would not
turn in as well on dry level paved surfaces (auto-x) which resulted in
slower turns and therefore slower times.  In the rain, I found it to help,
due to the wheelspin that is possible now that the whopping 115hp could
easily break the wheels loose.  If you used a bit more of a "point and
squirt technique, you can take top stock time of the day.   ---JCG.