Re: bonehead drivers

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eliot wrote:

>all i can say is.. get some decent snow tires!  awd is no substitute
>for it and neither is traction control.

>my v8q with studded snow tires can be driven on ice as predictably and
>as confidently as a wet road.  and i will never dream of driving on
>snowy or icy roads with the regular "all season" tires.

I agree with eliot completely. My 1990 80 quattro had 185/70 all season
tires on it when I bought it. I never once got stuck last winter (and it was 
severe in New England last year), but I still couldn't drive it as fast as
I could drive my VW Fox (fwd) with Nokia Hapakapalita NR10's. With four
of those I could go anywhere, at near wet road speeds.

I have since switched to wider Bridgestone RE-71's and I am hoping for a 
mild winter. The back end has really become loose in the little snow that
we've had so far.

While I'm on the subject, European car did a review of the Nokia's a couple
of
years ago and they loved them. I sold my Gislavids and bought a set--they are
amazing! Last year EC did a review of the Bridgestone Blizzak and they raved 
about them, also. My wife's Volvo needed snows and my distributor for Nokia 
couldn't be found, so we tried the Blizzak's. Her car never became stuck and 
straight line performance and braking are pretty good for a Volvo, but
turning
was a problem. Don't try any turns above 10-15 mph! The car acted the same
with all seasons as with the Bridgestones, while turning.

Can't wait to wear them out and buy Nokias again!

Alan