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Re: tyres/lights & WINTER



In a message dated 95-09-15 20:54:16 EDT, you write:

>
>>The euros swear by the Pirelli 190s/210s but I havent heard how they work
on
>>the quattros just benzes. Any thoughts on these or any other tyre which
>would
>>be used on snow/ice only 30% of the time.
>
>RE:  Steadiric wrote
>Great tire in the snow but god help you in the dry.  Go for the Blizzaks.
>
>


Hmmm......  the Blizzax become no more than a regular snow after all those
cute cells get worn down....  The P210's are a very good compromise....  I
have run Conti-contacts, Vreds (awesome but soft for q's), Goodyears, Hoka's,
and a few others between my years in prorally and MI/Chicago winters.....
 The q's, being relatively heavy for the stock wheel/tyre combo, do the best
with the P210's (Stiff sidewall is great for the porky q's).....  They are
awesome in the wet, close to the Hoka's in the snow, and are VERY quiet (in
fact quieter than most of my summer tires in the dry) compared to any of the
others out there......  They are a very stiff sidewall, which is the prollum
with all but the goodyears, and have excellent tread wear compared to all....
 The Hoka's are prolly the best for SNOW, and more the better, but for the
majority of winter driving, which is wet and slush and occasional snow, the
P210's are hard to beat.......   I've been given several others, and still
mount the 210's when driving MY car........   Unfortunately, pirelli got a
bad rap with the winter 190's (and unless you drive the benz, deservedly so),
but the 210's are quietly still the hot seller, and for good reason......
The Blizzax, (won't get too Hydrophillically nerdy here), are really only
"great" for about 30% of the tread life, the rest of the life (like after the
first season) you will wish you got something else......  Hoka's and Vreds
are great if you are driving in snow all the time, but your teeth and ears
will punish you the rest of the time.  the conti's just suck, the goodyears
are OK (really good if you go with a GT+4 cross cut), and the yokos are not
even worth looking at.....  The goodrich M&S is not bad, but you get a truck
ride for the Hoka traction, the Blizzax are a neat toy the first winter, and
they sell a lot of them, but a q is a eurocar, and the 210's have established
themselves very well across the pond and right here in my neighborhood......
 They carve a great Prorally turn in the mud/dirt too, NJTH


Scott
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