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Re: Rear Shock Info???
Bob Damato asked on friday night:
>Can you explain bump steer to me better than other people? I have a good
>idea, but not positive. Thanks!
Nerd Mode On......
Bump steer is caused by the suspension operating outside of it's optimal
designed stroke limits. All supension members operate in arc's,
unfortunatly all the members do not operate in the same arc's, this is
what cause's our problems. (hold on a second need to open up another
"Anchor Steam"... Thanks Scott.......)
The steering rack operates through tie rods, which operate a steering arm
mounted to the front or rear of the "Upright" or strut tube. Front
mounted steering arms are referred to as "Front Steer" and Rear mounted
are know as "Rear Steer" this is important to know because this defines
our bump steer curve.
Lowering or raising the car will place the steering arm in a different
location relative to the steering rack. Lowering the car will raise the
steering arm's relative to the rack and vice versa.
The factory placed all of the suspension parts according to several
factors.... Some Money, some ease of build at the factory, some Stress
loads that they want to design for (Which open's up another can of worms
in-itself) and some suspension geometery. Some times it's more cost or
space effective to design a car that has a very small normal operating
range for it's suspension, like +/- 1.00". Some cars (Like Ferrari's and
F-1 cars) have VERY well designed (Read big $$$$) suspension which may
have a larger overall operating range.
Okay you ask, What does all that have to do with the two evil words "Bump
Steer" .... LOTS!
If you lower a front steer mass produced car more than, oh say 1" You
WILL get bump steer. you can actually rasie that same car 2" over static
ride height before things get to ugly. A rear steer car will behave in
the exact oppisite. In a front steer car when the suspension deflect's up
(Bump) the steering arms get "Longer" causing toe-out, at normal ride
height this effect will be very small something like 1/16" per 1" of
travel per wheel. If you lower the car 1.5" this effect could change to
something like .75" per 1" per wheel (Total toe-out 1.5").... Not good.
In a rear steer car the toe-out becomes toe-in.
Toe-out is not very desireable because it cause the car to dart in the
direction of most traction or weight, Toe-in on the other hand does not
cause the car to change direction, it just cause more tire, suspension
and driveline wear. Rear steer is obviously more desireable, but auto
makers like front steer for many reason, like it turns tighter, has more
leverage for less power assist, better Ackerman charicteristics, better
flat tire response etc, etc.
If you have ever been in a front steer car (I think somthing like 90% of
all new cars are front steer) that has been lowered to much you will
notice that the car is VERY nervous. A rear steer car will just feel
dead and not want to turn.
Hopes this helps. If you or anyone else has any questions fire away.
Nerd mode off.
Hmmmmmm maybe that's where my ride height is where it is......
Later!
Eric Fletcher
'87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B
STEADI RIC@aol.com