>Glen - ...that's not a "handhold", it's a "Jesus handle"..... ...Hmmm I always thought is was the "I'm going to try something!" handle... Seriously though, can anyone tell me WHY in the oh-so-wise minds of the Audi Gods, the center vents always push out cold air??? Chicago -70F air even leaking into the car is not fun! Chris '84 4ks. '70 Norton '87 Virago