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>
> quattro-digest Thursday, 25 April 1996 Volume 03 : Number 389
>
> *
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> * In this issue:
> re: 2-piece exh
> Re: Help: strange noise
> Headrest vs Head Restraint
> halfshafts, tie rod ends for 1990 Coupe Q
> RE: Headrest removal & replacement
> Re: A4 Quattro
> Re: Another noise quiz
> Re: Re 5KCSTQ Oil Leak
> Re: A4 Quattro
> Turbo Boost Question? #2
> RE: Re 5KCSTQ Oil Leak
> Applications
> Re[2]: A4 Quattro
> A/C system help
> Antenna Question answered
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Glen Powell <gpowell@acacianet.com>
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:25:57 -0400
> Subject: re: 2-piece exh
>
> Well, it's all still a work in progress! I just got the KUQEFH (Killer =
> Ur Quattro Engine From Hell) back from the machine shop and the old =
> engine is now pulled. I'm now working all the little details, degreasing =
> and parts hunting needed to put the KUQEFH into the car. This engine is =
> getting the 2-piece exh. It is the Audi OEM 2-piece replacement for the =
> OEM 1-piece on the Ur-Q and turbo 5000/200. It bolts right to the head =
> as does the stock piece. I think some very minor work was done to make =
> it clear the Ur-Q intake manifold - VERY MINOR. No changes whatsoever =
> with respect to the down-stream connection - the turbo bolts right on =
> exactly the same as with the 1-piece exh. I'll know more when I get it =
> all together over the next few weeks. Lack of time is a real factor in =
> getting the job done - I have a family and work at a startup company and =
> commute 150 mi and 2.5 hours per day on top of a 10.5 hour day in the =
> office - every day! Right now I'm struggling with gittin the race car =
> ready for Saturday at NHIS - so the KUQEFH project is languishing for =
> now.....
>
> :(
>
> Just looking at the 2-piece and the size and shape of the ports it is =
> obvious that this piece is a vastly superior flower and should also =
> address the cracking problem. Flow bench testing shows that the 2-piece =
> WAY outflows the capability of the head - even before the 2-piece was =
> ported & polished!
>
> :)
>
> - -glen
>
> - ----------
> From: Richard Davis[SMTP:cngnyec@pipeline.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 1996 5:00 PM
> To: Glen Powell
> Subject: Exhaust mods
>
> Glen,=20
> A while back you mentioned putting a later model exh. ( 2 piece?)
> manifold on your TQC. Which one did you use, did it bolt right up to =
> the
> engine and was any mods necessary to mate with turbo and downstream
> exhaust? Did you do any work to it or just put it on?=20
> Thanks for the info.=20
> Mike
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Mike <mac50@columbia.edu>
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:30:23 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Help: strange noise
>
> On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Greg Christie wrote:
> > On Apr 25, 2:31pm, Mike wrote:
> > > My 89 Audi 100 is making a strange noise when in "drive". It makes a
> > > "click click click" sound like a playing card stuck in a bicycle wheel.
> >
> > Funny. I have noticed a smiliar noise in my 1994 Audi 80 and a previous '87 VW
> > Caravalle. Both cars were manuals. I could only notice the noise when moving
> > close to a solid object (I guess the sound bounced). Never found out what it
> > was, never seemed to matter either. I assummed in the end it was only there
> > when the wheels were rotating. Maybe a slight imperfection in a disk?
> >
> > Greg
> Mine is an automatic. I should try shifting to neutral while in motion.
> But I agree, the sound has to bounce to be heard. The other guy who
> asked this question got responses like "brake cable touching
> driveshaft". I guess it could be something serious, like the
> differential. Any other serious things that could cause this?
> Mike
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Graydon D. Stuckey" <graydon@apollo.gmi.edu>
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:32:05 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Headrest vs Head Restraint
>
> On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, McIntyre, Richard wrote:
>
> > Ok, head "restraints". I read (but can't recall where) that the A6 head
> > restraints were rated among the worst in an analysis by some organization
> > or other. I agree with this - the restraints are too far away from the head
> > (height is not the problem) to offer protection in the event of a crash. I know
> > my old 4000CSQ did not have this problem. A6 owners: ever notice how
> > far back you have to lean your head before it touches the restraint?
> Guys,
>
> There is an FMVSS requirement regarding the distance from the head
> restraint to the back of the head with a standard SAE mannequin.
> Automakers MUST comply with this requirement. Further, the distance is
> very important for rebound accelerations on a frontal collision, and
> therefore has a significant effect on crash performance. As we all know,
> the Audis are all excellent when it comes to crashworthiness, so I would
> not worry about the head restraints from a safety standpoint. Now,
> comfort - that is a different matter. I don't mind the restraints on my
> 5KCSTQ, but my wife hates them! I never touch the thing - it's a
> restraint, not a rest.
>
> HTSSLOTS (Hope That Sheds Some Light On The Situation) :-)
>
> Later,
> Graydon D. Stuckey
> graydon@apollo.gmi.edu
> Flint, Michigan USA
> '86 Audi 5000 CS Turbo Quattro, GDS Racing Stage II
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: schulz@tif623.ed.ray.com (Peter Schulz)
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:46:10 +0500
> Subject: halfshafts, tie rod ends for 1990 Coupe Q
>
> Good morning listers!
>
> I went to NTW last night for a check on my alignment...
>
> The results are: I need new tie rod ends, and the
> front right outer cv boot is ripped...
>
> So, enlightened Audi owners, especially Coupe Q owners, HELP!
>
> I'll call Fred's Tranaxle in FLA for a quote. Are there any
> other recommended sources for rebuilt half-shafts?
>
> What size 12pt socket do I need to remove the half shaft??
>
> Has anyone done this service themselves on a Coupe Q, do you
> have any tips on the procedure?
>
> Aside from the fact that I have to do this soon, because of the
> degradation in handling, are there any inherent dangers?
>
> IE, I'm going away for the weekend, and have roughly a 40 mile round trip
> commute daily to work.
>
> I'll be scouring through Bentley, looking at the procedures.
>
> Thanks
> Peter Schulz
> 1990 Coupe Quattro
> Schulz@ed.ray.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Robert Myers <rmyers@wvit.wvnet.edu>
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:57:22 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: RE: Headrest removal & replacement
>
> Richard,
>
> >From many years ago, I recall removing head restraints on one of my Audis
> to install skeepskin seat covers.
>
> The technique involved turning the plastic top of the anchor socket.
> This released a spring detent which then allowed the head restraint to be
> pulled out of the socket. If I recall correctly this could be done using
> fingers alone but there was a slot which would allow use of a tool such
> as a wide bladed screwdriver or a putty knife or a table knife to be used
> also.
>
> I don't recall the direction it should be turned. Perhaps either way
> would work?
>
> Please let me encourage you not to drive your vehicle without the
> restraints in position.
>
> On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, McIntyre, Richard wrote:
>
> > Ok, head "restraints". I read (but can't recall where) that the A6 head
> > restraints were rated among the worst in an analysis by some organization
> > or other. I agree with this - the restraints are too far away from the head
> > (height is not the problem) to offer protection in the event of a crash. I know
> > my old 4000CSQ did not have this problem. A6 owners: ever notice how
> > far back you have to lean your head before it touches the restraint?
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Jim Griffin[SMTP:JGriff@pobox.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 1996 10:09 PM
> > To: McIntyre, Richard
> > Cc: quattro@coimbra.ans.net
> > Subject: Re: Headrest removal & replacement
> >
> > At 12:44 PM 04/24/96 -0400, you wrote:
> > >
> > >Does anyone know how to remove headrests? I have an A6Q, and the
> > >front headrests are positioned in such a way as to be fairly useless. I
> > >was thinking of trading the front headrests with the rear, since the rear
> > >have angled posts which, when installed on the front seats, should
> > >position the headrest far enough forward to be useful.
> > >
> > >Thoughts on this idea?
> > >
> > >Richard
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Well, I have always known them to be head RESTRAINTS, not headrests, for the
> > purpose of offering protection against whiplash in the event of an accident.
> > I have never been in ANY car where I have felt that they would serve as
> > headrests, especially American cars. In most other cars, the head
> > "restraints" are useless, since they only go up to the back of the neck
> > (which would tend to increase the whiplash effect!!). In Audis (and most
> > German cars), they are just perfect. (And if they intended them to be
> > pillowy soft cushions to rest our skulls on, they'd have made them that
> > way.... for comfort, not safety!!)
> >
> > So, if I were you, I wouldn't change a thing. Those wonderful, crafty
> > Germans have engineered it this way for your protection.
> >
> > And personally, I do not feel comfortable with my head pressed back against
> > a "headrest", since it seems too restrictive to proper and safe driving. I
> > feel less alert, and less in "touch" with the car. But hey, that's me!!
> >
> > Just my $.02!!
> >
> > Jim
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Jim Griffin
> > JGriff@pobox.com
> > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3010
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > "Perception is often stronger than reality!"
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
>
> __
> Bob
> **************************************************************************
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> * Chair, Dept. of Chemistry (304) 442-3358 (office) *
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: treilley_at_BANKMARK@conseco.com (treilley)
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 10:13:52 -0500
> Subject: Re: A4 Quattro
>
> Here are some points to consider:
>
> 1. People mainly only write this list with problems.
> 2. It seems from 88 on, Audi has as good reliability if not better
> than lots of the Japanese autos(this is an obervation of list traffic,
> no offense intended to those with older Audis)
> 3. What upsets people is the cost of repairing Audis. Definately
> higher than Japanese autos.
> 4. People who drive Audis demand a higher level of performance and
> workmanship. Obviously better than japanese autos.
> 5. The attraction of these cars is that they are unique, like their
> owners. How many japanese autos do you see every day? How many
> Audis do you see?
> 6. If you have driven an Audi and are considering an alternative,
> then you should not buy an Audi.
>
> Tim NJ 90CQ, 77Spitfire
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: A4 Quattro
> Author: "Patel; Karteek" <kpatel@visa.com> at Internet
> Date: 4/23/96 6:13 PM
>
>
> I am considering purchasing an A4 Quattro, but I am hung up on the
> reliability of Audi automobiles (especially after the 100K miles mark).
> From the messages I have read, I am drawing the following conclusions:
> everyone loves their Audi, but hates the problems.
>
> I have test driven everything else comparable (though nothing compares to
> the Quattro system), yet I find myself back Audi dealership questioning
> reliability. This is a long-term purchase and I expect to drive a lot of
> miles in a short time. Their 3yr/50K mile warranty and free service is
> great, but what can I expect after 50K miles, trouble and expense? This is
> what I hear from other automobile manufacturers (and my parents) when I tell
> them that I am leaning towards the A4Q.
>
> Has anyone put on a lot of miles on a newer Audi that can provide some
> feedback?
>
> And you recent A4Q owners, have you experienced any problems in the first
> few months of ownership in this, what seems to the eye, well built
> automobile?
>
> As you can tell, I am a high mileage Japanese car owner who has never had
> any trouble with his automobiles. I am ready for fun and excitement, but is
> reliability a trade-off?
>
> Thank you for the help.
>
> --Karteek
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: treilley_at_BANKMARK@conseco.com (treilley)
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 10:20:40 -0500
> Subject: Re: Another noise quiz
>
> I would guess it has something to do with the climate control system.
> There are lots of relays and motors under there that will move around
> based on temp. This sounds like you may have a sticky or bad relay.
> Unfortionately it could also be a bad HVAC.
>
> Tim NJ 90CQ, 77Spitfire
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Another noise quiz
> Author: dougev <dougev@smtp.newpig.com> at Internet
> Date: 4/25/96 7:30 AM
>
>
> Get ready...here is another "strange noise coming from my Audi" quiz!!!
>
> I have a 88 90Q. Every once in a while a relay clicking sound will be
> heard under the dash. Similar to a turn signal or 4 way flasher sound
> however the frequency can be slow or fast and can vary up and down during
> each attack. (the rate can be 1 click per second up to 4 to 6 clicks per
> second) It doesn't seem to effect the performance + or - of the car nor
> any thing else that is obvious. I appears to be associated with colder
> temperatures as it will stop sometimes when the car is warmer.
> Any ideas out there to solve this "noise quiz" ? Thanks for any
> help. Doug Evans Dougev@newpig.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Brett N Augsburger <augsbbn@eng.auburn.edu>
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 10:07:18 -0500 (CDT)
> Subject: Re: Re 5KCSTQ Oil Leak
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 1996, H R BACH wrote:
>
> > I had a similar problem with my 87 5KTQA. Oil appeared to be leaking off
> > the support for the intercooler. Turned out to be a leaking turbo oil
> > supply pipe which was spraying across to the intercooler. The pipe is a
> > dealer only item, of course.
> >
> > Bob Bach, Toronto
> >
> Dealer only item, yes, but if it is leaking around the braided sections
> you can have this section replaced for around $10. Find a shop that does
> AC repairs, they should be able to supply the replacement section and
> crimp it on.
>
> Later,
>
> Brett Augsburger
> Auburn University, AL
> 86 5000CSTQ
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: erict@cta.com (Eric Thorstenson)
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 96 11:10:55 EDT
> Subject: Re: A4 Quattro
>
> Tim said:
> - ----
> 3. What upsets people is the cost of repairing Audis. Definately
> higher than Japanese autos.
> 4. People who drive Audis demand a higher level of performance and
> workmanship. Obviously better than japanese autos.
> - ----
>
> Re item 3: Not necessarily true. Cost of parts for timing belt job
> on my Miata was roughly double that of the cost of parts for the
> same job on my 5kS (including water pump on the Audi!)
>
> Re item 4: This is a vast, unsubstantiated generalization, both in
> terms of the drivers and the cars. 'Nuff said. (don't want to get riled...)
>
> Eric T. '86 5kS
> erict@ra.cta.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Anderson, Scott C./Am Cyanamid" <scoanderson@carlson.com>
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 10:25:00 -0500
> Subject: Turbo Boost Question? #2
>
> Thanks for all the replies I got about increasing the boost in my '91
> 200, but here's my next question: Many people have told me that the
> in-dash boost gauge can be very inaccurate, so what kind a gauge would
> I use to monitor boost (and what it would cost)? If I increase my boost
> via a spring replacement or CPU modification which engine parts would
> fail first in an over-boosted engine. My guess would be connecting rod
> bearings.
>
> Scott
> '91 200
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Glen Powell <gpowell@acacianet.com>
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:50:43 -0400
> Subject: RE: Re 5KCSTQ Oil Leak
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 1996, H R BACH wrote:
>
> > I had a similar problem with my 87 5KTQA. Oil appeared to be leaking off
> > the support for the intercooler. Turned out to be a leaking turbo oil
> > supply pipe which was spraying across to the intercooler. The pipe is a
> > dealer only item, of course.
> >
> > Bob Bach, Toronto
> >
> Dealer only item, yes, but if it is leaking around the braided sections
> you can have this section replaced for around $10. Find a shop that does
> AC repairs, they should be able to supply the replacement section and
> crimp it on.
>
> Perhaps not. Try these guys:
>
> QUATTRO SPORTS
> phone: (01444) 451542
> (ask for Kim, very knowledgeable, I bought Ur-Q oil cooler lines from him at a very reasonable price, like $140 US, Ed.)
>
> - -glen
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Qclubusa@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:58:37 -0400
> Subject: Applications
>
> I'm headed to Grand Rapids for the Grattan event this weekend, nearly 54
> participants with every Audi model respresented! Well almost...oops, how'd
> that Ferrari slip in? I'll be back Monday evening to answer any QCUSA
> membership inquiries. Thanks. Karen Chadwick, Executive Director, Quattro
> Club USA.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: treilley_at_BANKMARK@conseco.com (treilley)
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:44:56 -0500
> Subject: Re[2]: A4 Quattro
>
> I thought this would raise some eyebrows. I think in the majority(not
> all) of cases the parts and labor of audi dealers are higher than most
> of the Japanese dealers. There are some japanese parts that are
> higher. A mitsu steering box costs $1200. Much more than an Audi
> rack.
>
> I did generalize a bit on what audi drivers want. The people I know
> with audis and I want higher levels of performance and workmanship.
> As far as Audis being better consider this. How many screws and or
> caps do you see exposed inside your audi. How solid does the door
> feel when you shut it. How well are wires tied. If you are in a
> dangerous situation and need to avoid an accident or take the path of
> least resistance, which car would you rather be in?
>
> Don't get me wrong, I am not anti japanese. I believe in a global
> economy(no political discussions please). I think they make good
> autos. But the majority of them seem to be built for the masses.
>
> No offense, but I see so many miatas with hard tops(even in warm
> weather), that I wonder why people buy them. I own a convertable and
> the last time I put the soft-top up was when I could not drive fast
> enough in the rain to keep it from coming in the cockpit.
>
> Tim NJ 90CQ, 77Spitfire
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Re: A4 Quattro
> Author: erict@cta.com (Eric Thorstenson) at Internet
> Date: 4/25/96 11:10 AM
>
>
> Tim said:
> - ----
> 3. What upsets people is the cost of repairing Audis. Definately
> higher than Japanese autos.
> 4. People who drive Audis demand a higher level of performance and
> workmanship. Obviously better than japanese autos.
> - ----
>
> Re item 3: Not necessarily true. Cost of parts for timing belt job
> on my Miata was roughly double that of the cost of parts for the
> same job on my 5kS (including water pump on the Audi!)
>
> Re item 4: This is a vast, unsubstantiated generalization, both in
> terms of the drivers and the cars. 'Nuff said. (don't want to get riled...)
>
> Eric T. '86 5kS
> erict@ra.cta.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: moy@matrix.riv.edu (Michael Moy)
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:04:32 -0400
> Subject: A/C system help
>
> 88 5000Q, 100K miles
>
> I have a problem with no air coming through the cenents, the side vents or the
> floor vents. I had the programmer replaced but this didn't solve the problem.
> The mechanic said that it might be the vacuum servos in the heating unit.
>
> The diagnostic (07) says that the cetner flaps should be open but no air is
> coming through. Has anyone ever replaced these servos or had a problem with
> them?
>
> I was also low on freon (down 1.5 lbs). They spent quite a while looking for
> leaks but couldn't find any. I guess we'll see if there is a leak this summer.
> They thought it might be some contraction due to cold temperatures here.
>
> michael
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Michael LaRosa <76761.1444@CompuServe.COM>
> Date: 25 Apr 96 12:05:14 EDT
> Subject: Antenna Question answered
>
> Thanks Eliot and Cobram for the info :-)
>
> Looks like the antenna was a TSB for people who complained about reception
> on their radio. For you non-antenna people the reception is still not that
> good,
> but I think it's the radio not the antenna. The alpine in my wifes car has much
> better recption and it's just using the little whip antenna on the back of the
> of the
> roof.
>
> Looks like some cars have the strips of which there are 5 :-) I counted last
> night.
>
> Hhhhmmm...
>
> Mike L.
> 89 100 Avant
> 90 V8
>
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> ------------------------------
>
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Oct.'96 is when I made the move from the Pacific to the Atlantic with an
A4Q. It's ten-thousand miles later and getting better every mile. I've
had not one trace of trouble with my Japanese cars {I still have an '88
civic w/188k} but there really isn't a fair comparison. I must admit
though, that if it were'nt for "no charge maintenence/repair for 50k",
it probably would of taken two test drives to close the deal.
Enjoy and good luck !
damp@ix.netcom.com