Got on this thread late, but, beat on a friend's M3 several weeks ago and, I have to admit, it may well be the best out-of-the-box car I have driven--in that price range. If the choice were mine [and it is:)]I would drive a Q. But, really not a fair comparison, IMHO, even with the extra 6 [what would a good nitrous system for that car cost? Hmmmmm]. Bruce