In message <199612021621.KAA22800@riverside.mr.net> "Michael Benno" writes: > I wonder how much energy is lost just fighting the friction of the brakes > rubbing on the rotors. At times, quite a lot. Thankfully. At other times - just enough to keep the pads warm enough to use. -- Phil Payne phil@sievers.com Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club