Re: Further 4000 questions

[quattro@rogerswave.ca]

> Andrew Buc writes:
> > What displacements did the 4- and 5-cyl engines in the 4000 come in, and what 
> > years were they used?
> 
> Here is a table that should answer your questions (U.S. models only).
> I constructed this table based on my memory so please excuse any
> errors:
> 
> Year	Model		Disp/#Cyl/FI	Trans		HP
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> 1980	4000		1.6L4 K-Jet	FWD 4M		78hp
> 1980	4000 Auto	2.1L5 K-Jet	FWD 3A		100hp
> 1981	4000		1.7L4 K-Jet	FWD 5M+		74hp
> 1981	4000 5+5	2.1L5 K-Jet	FWD 5M		100hp
> 1982	4000S		1.7L4 K-Jet	FWD 5M+		74hp
> 1983	4000S		1.7L4 K-Jet	FWD 5M+		74hp
> 1984	4000S		1.8L4 KE-Jet	FWD 5M#/3A	88hp
> 1984	4000S quattro	2.2L5 KE-Jet	AWD 5M		115hp
> 1985	4000S		1.8L4* KE-Jet	FWD 5M@/3A	102hp
> 1985	4000S quattro	2.2L5 KE-Jet	AWD 5M		115hp
> 1986	4000S		1.8L4* KE-Jet	FWD 5M@/3A	102hp
> 1986	4000CS quattro	2.2L5 KE-Jet	AWD 5M		115hp
> 1987	4000S		1.8L4* KE-Jet	FWD 5M@/3A	102hp
> 1987	4000CS quattro	2.2L5 KE-Jet	AWD 5M		115hp
> 
> * High compression motor with knock sensor control
> + Wide ratio
> # Medium ratio
> @ Close ratio
> 
> As far as gas mileage goes, the earlier, lighter 4000s with the
> wide ratio 5-speed boxes can easily give you 35+ mpg.  The later
> cars with bigger engines and closer ratio transmissions give you
> much better performance, with some loss of fuel mileage.
> 
> > What goodies do you get in a 4000CS that you don't in a lesser 4000? Is a 
> > sunroof one of them? My Peugeots have spoiled me for sunroofless cars, and one 
> > nice thing about calling up on a 504 sedan is not having to ask if it has a 
> > sunroof--you know it does!
> 
> Even though this is listed as an optional item, most 85 and later 4000s
> that I've seen are equipped with sunroofs.  The latter ones are power
> tilt/slide.  

It's kind of funny but here in Canada all 4000 with "s" (4000s) come 
with 5-cyl engines.  4000 without "s" came with 4-cyl engines.
BTW all 4000s came all loaded with all the options (power w,l, air 
cond, sun roof, etc, etc).  Both of my friends have 4000's.
One is an 83 4000s with all the toys and 110 hp 5-cyl (no cat in 
Canada).  the other one is an 85 also 4000s with all the toys and 
5-cyl 110 2.22 engine (with a cat after 84).
It looks like the best bet is to get one here since it looks like 
most of them came with 5-cyl.  Also prices are way cheaper here.
The 83 was bought for $400CDN, the 85 for $1300CDN, My Coupe for 
$500CDN and my quattro for $900CDN.  My other friends 84 4kq for 
$600CDN.  From what I see people are asking for their cars on the 
list it feels like cars in US are way overpriced.
Later.
Martin Pajak
quattro@rogerswave.ca
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5939

1982 Coupe (430,000 km)
1984 4000s quattro (320,000 km under the wrench)
1970 Porsche 911E Targa (also under the wrench)

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