In message <32D29FCE.1989@earthlink.net> Sargent Schutt writes: > 5.0 forever...yeah, who else but ford can get ONLY 225 hp out of 5 I don't know if British Leyland ever tried, but I don't think they'd have much trouble. We had a 1.8 litre Humber once with 40-odd bhp. Mid-1950s, I think. -- Phil Payne phil@sievers.com Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club