Oil stuph

["Al Powell" <APOWELL@agcom.tamu.edu>]

First:  Anytime my windshield wipers are on, my headlights are on.  
Anytime I'm on a trip, my headlights are on.  I have no problem with 
DRLs personally - as long as they're either very low wattage (basically 
marker lights) or in the case of higher-wattage lights, well aimed.  

A little state patrol enforcement on drivers with mis-aimed lights 
would go a long way.  In the days I ran a bubble gum machine, I 
offered some drivers with mis-aimed driving lights an option: turn 
them off or I would use wire cutters on the power leads.  At least 
the problem was solved while they were in my territory!

Oil stuph:

"Meron" <phwomp@cosmoslink.net> and Jim Griffin both shared 
some good thoughts..

Meron: 

> Are you aware that 6 and 10 microns filtering is not necessarily an
> advantage! the reasons are:
> You can always put in a filter  with a very fine mesh media that will
> screen "atoms" but what happened to the filter after some dirt gets in?
> Filters are designed to filter BETTER after they have been used! because
> the dirt also acts as a filtering media! (also correct with a air filters)
> A filter should be, a carefully designed part that allows the oil to be
> filtered in its various stages read; hot, cold, with moisture, broken down
> oil (overuse), various oil weights 10W to 50W and so on.

True.  Air filters work better when partially soiled, for the same 
reason.  That's one reason I like the Amsoil filters.  The extreme 
DEPTH of the filter material gives the filter potential to achieve 
all the goals you list. It also allows the filter to take SMALL 
particles and not plug up immediately.  I am very suspicious of  
filters with a single layer of filter paper, as I suspect that if 
they do filter small particle, they will plug up and bypass all too 
soon.  Advantage: Amsoil filter.
 
> The reason you are getting this above shpiel is because you are using the
> above specifications as the gospel and they are not, it is usually not a
> good idea to take one or two specifications and refer to them as a stand
> alone factor.

Absolutely true.  As indicated above, there are other reasons I 
consider this a good design.

Tell us - what is the DISadvantage of a filter which has 
anti-drainback valves, bypass valves, filtration for extremely small 
particles, 1/2" or more depth of filtration medium?  Price?  They 
cost less than Audi factory filters....

> Now, do not kill me Al, I am not disagreeing with anything you say merely
> pointing that there is more to the subject.......
 
Au contraire, you make good points.  Frankly, if I were aware of any 
widely-available filter other than Amsoil which had these 
characteristics, I would cite it, just so my list-friends wouldn't 
think I was a fanatic for one brand.  If that filter was cheaper than 
Amsoil, I'd buy it.  But I don't know of one!!

(RE: the bypass filter)

> Good idea, but do you really think you need it, do you realize that you
> have on your car a filter that is so good you probably could run full load,
> high BMP (brake mean effective pressure) like an industrial engine!

YES.  I think the closer that oil is to having NO particulates, 
condensation, contamination, etc. in it, the better off the owner is!

> Agree in general, but don't be too quick to dismiss CR, their test of oils
> in NY taxis was an excellent test! (don't you guys get all worked up again,
> once was enough, you too Bob!)

Pfaugh!  Finger snap at CR!

I trust their tests of toasters and appliances...when it comes to the
automotive area, I consider them to be only one notch above the 
proletariat in knowledge.  Many of the people on this list know more 
about cars than they do.
 
> Love you all, be in a good spirit no matter what kind of filter, oil, Rolex
> or anything else you are using.

GROUP CYBER-HUG!!!!!!  GROUP CYBER-HUG!!!!!!  ;-)

> From: Jim Griffin <JGriff@pobox.com>

> Actually, (for a couple of years or more now?), Amsoil now makes it much
> easier to install and use the bypass (i.e. second, higher-quality) filter
> system. They make a spin-on adapter plate that fits oil lines that go to
> both the bypass and "regular" (if I can call it that; it is by no means just
> an ordinary filter!!) filters, which can be mounted in an easily accessible
> location (for easy quick filter changes).

HOT DIGGETY DAMN!!!  Guess I oughta read those monthly magazines more 
closely!!  Mebbe now that I have the degree done, I'll have time.  
Thanks for the tip, Jim!!  This is a considerable improvement on 
their previous setup!!

> The system removes wear-causing particles down to less than 1 micron. It
> also removes rust-and-corrosion-causing water. It increases the service life
> of the oil by keeping it cleaner, longer. It will completely filter a
> 6-quart system in about 5 minutes (at engine speed equivalents to 45 mph).
> It increases oil volume by more than 25% (depending on size of filters
> used), and reduces overall oil operating temperatures.

Dandy!!!  I doubt anyone on the group will have a criticism of this 
capability.  



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