In a note dated 2/1/97 it was asked: >>Do you guys space your Yakima using Yakima's messurements or do you measure them by Audi's specs (The arrows in the doors)?<< On my 5kcstqw I used the arrows on the doors. Also, Igor's advice for car cleaner/wax under the pads is essential!!! On my 4ksq I have the gutter mount Yakima's and they go wherever I want 'em. Mike Veglia 85 4ksq