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RE: CQ vs. S4
Re: Very Cool A4 2.8Q sighting in DC
Problems with a 4kq
Re: Driving With Cell Phones and Guitars
Re: 89 200 Turbo problems
Re: Driving With Cell Phones -Reply
Re: Driving With Cell Phones and Guitars
Steering Wheel/Ign. Housing on 86CGT
Re: 89 Turbo (driven?) Alternator
Re: Windshield Wiper motor/suggestions needed.
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From: "Duff, Ian" <IDuff@charter.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:23:45 -0500
Subject: RE: CQ vs. S4
Dorab? (he owns one of each, the lucky SOB).
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Ian Duff, 1990 Coupe quattro 20v, Red/Black
quattro Owners Club member P877
Home: New Bedford, MA, USA
Work: Charter Systems, inc., West Newton, MA, USA
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Nelson [SMTP:mnelson@brls.com]
>Sent: Saturday, February 15, 1997 9:42 PM
>To: 'Quattro List'
>Subject: CQ vs. S4
>
>Hi All!
>
>Anybody out there get a chance to drive a '90 or '91 CQ as well as an
>S4? I'm interested to know if anyone out there really noticed any
>differences in handling, acceleration, and the comparison/differences in
>overall feel of the cars.
>
>TIA!
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Mark Nelson
>mnelson@brls.com
>
>'91 CQ (Building for SCCA Pro-Rally)
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From: Wonsuk Ro <wro@wesleyan.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:26:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Very Cool A4 2.8Q sighting in DC
I don't know about that car, but I have a very similarly modified a4; If
you want to see any pictures or discuss about the modifications reply.
So far, I have added a rear spoiler, lowered the front 1.9" and rear 1.7"
(H&R springs with Koni shocks), have an K&N cone filter, remus exhaust,
catz msx lights, and an oettinger front spoiler. The front spoiler is 5"
from the ground, barely enough to make it through the automatic car wash
(3"). The lowered stance makes it feel like it is riding on rails; plus
it looks a hell of a lot better. If you have an A4, you should seriously
considered the drop if anyhthing.
Future modifications :
possibly Abt 17" A11 wheels, BBS RX's, or TSW
Hockenheim R's. All dressed in 235/45 Dunlop SP8000
Throttle body
Chip (I haven't seriously considered this option but who makes the
best chip?)
BOBBo Yo RO
On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, George S Achorn III wrote:
> Driving near American University in DC today I sighted a Black A4 2.8Q. It
> had a lowered suspension, trunk spoiler and 17" wheels from what I could
> tell. This is the first heavily modded A4 I've seen in person and the
> lowering and bigger wheels really pronounce the roundness of the car, but
> it looks very good. I couldn't tell what kind of wheels were on it as it
> didn't stop, but still very cool.
> I also spotted a metallic blue Coupe Quattro (90 or 91).
> Any takers on either car? Just curious if any of the drivers are on the
> list.
> Later-G
>
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From: "John Seitz" <jws@megahits.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:02:35 -0500
Subject: Problems with a 4kq
Hello-
Just finished looking through the archives, they are a great help to the Q
owner! I have a 1986 4000cs-quattro with about 156k miles and still buts
mile long grin across my face!! I was trying to find some info about the
'idle Stabilizer Valve'?? When the motor is cold the motor idles quite
rough, and when accelerating from 1800 to about 4000rpm the car has a big
hesitation to it. Once warm it stops (sometimes?) I saw in the archives
that there is also a relay/computer above the footwell, but that was on the
coupe??? Any ideas would be nice! If any one could help on where and how
to test please send to me!
Thanks
John Seitz
jws@snet.net
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From: John Allred <jallred@rtimeinc.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:16:35 -0800
Subject: Re: Driving With Cell Phones and Guitars
Thus spake Huw Powell <human@nh.ultranet.com>:
>I believe talking on the phone can require more of your available
>consciousness. There is a tendency to form an "image" of the other
>conversant not necessary when they are in the car. Also the other party
>can't see the traffic and suddenly be quiet when they see the driver's
>attention is needed - they can't co-drive, giving you the slight benefit of
>another set of eyes on the road, or yell "hey look out for that truck stupid
>!" - unless of course they are in another car nearby!
I must respectfully disagree. As a pilot, I simultaneously control a
vehicle in 3 space and frequently use the radio, with a bunch of
visualization tossed in for good measure (the controller is vectoring a
learjet behind me -- it is going to run me over? Is the controller trying
to make my life interesting by vectoring me into a mountain? where is the
student with horrible radio technique and a stark inability to hold
altitude? ad nauseum.)
What makes this work in the air is to prioritize your tasks. The
priorities go like this:
aviate -- keep the greasy side down, look for traffic
navigate -- where am I going?
communicate -- radios as necessary.
Note that the radio is _dead last_!! Flight Instructors often summarize
this to students with the phrase "don't drop the airplane to fly the
microphone". It is entirely proper to tell a controller "stand by" if
you're busy with a higher priority task.
Taking this idea to a car means that you tell the guy on the other end of
the phone to "wait a minute" if you get busy while driving, much as you'd
tell a passenger to pipe down in the same circumstance. If you're in the
middle of a hectic lane change and the phone rings, maybe you don't pick it
up.
Judgement is the key here, not some "one size fits all" law that says you
can't talk on a cell phone while driving (which, no doubt, some idiot
Congresscritter is concocting right now.)
John Allred
1990 Coupe Quattro
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John Allred (jallred@rtimeinc.com)
RTime Inc, Seattle, WA http://www.rtimeinc.com/
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From: Allan Jones <ampj@tiac.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:31:04 -0500
Subject: Re: 89 200 Turbo problems
> Will the same thing happen if you loosen the oil filler cap?
> Berthann
> 5000cstq, 125k and counting
> >>
> No, the car should stall ALWAYS when you pull the oil cap off.... Here is
> the secret. The idle stabilizer circuit can compensate for the oil dipstick
> pull, the engine will lose rpm, then the ISV will recover.... If there is
> another leak (or you pull the oil cap) you have created too much of an air
> leak, and the ISV can't compensate for it.... Car stalls
>
> HTH
>
> Scott
Is that on all engines or just turbo's? I can take the cap off of my
'86 Coupe GT's I5 and watch the camshaft spin happily around!! I hope I
don't have a problem!!??! No wise cracks please - Audi related prob.'s
only ;)
Allan
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From: jafo@tummy.com
Date: 16 Feb 1997 20:36:08 -0000
Subject: Re: Driving With Cell Phones -Reply
In article <7753250917021997/A70591/CSAV10/11B28A593100*@MHS.minedu.govt.nz> you write:
>>involving car phones found that the risk of being involved in a car wreck is as
>>high as having a blood alcohol level of 0.08. The good thing is that about 35%
>
>it's not that i'm disagreeing that cell phone use in a car distracts the
>driver, of course it does. but to my mind, no more so that talking to
>a passenger...
Evelyn and I were having this discussion earlier today... She mentioned the
BAC equivalence and I asked if it was for hand-held units only or also
the hands-free. She said that both were about equal... When I asked
about the disruptiveness of talking with a passenger, she said:
Most passengers have their self-interest in mind, and will stop arguing
with you if the going gets tough...
Of course that's true. A guy I went to HS with I wouldn't want to be ANYWHERE
NEAR if he was talking to his girlfriend (now wife) on the phone in the car
or out of it. He actually broke one of my phones while talking to her once.
Sean
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"Science exists to lend belief to sci-fi movies."
Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo@tummy.com>
URL: <http://www.tummy.com/xvscan> HP-UX/Linux/FreeBSD/BSDOS scanning software.
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From: Allan Jones <ampj@tiac.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:46:29 -0500
Subject: Re: Driving With Cell Phones and Guitars
> Judgement is the key here, not some "one size fits all" law that says you
> can't talk on a cell phone while driving (which, no doubt, some idiot
> Congresscritter is concocting right now.)
>
> John Allred
I second that, John! Nice going!
Although, I must let everyone know from experience that it is risky to
use a cell phone while driving. I rear-ended a pick-up(not that hard,
but hard enough on my Coupe) while making a phone call on my MUCH TOO
SMALL Nokia 232. I DO NOT blame it on anything BUT ME paying_attention
to something_other than the road! That "something other" can be anything
in: your car, someone else's car, or on the street. It is not
neccessarily the phone, but the taking of the driver's attention from
the road! They could do a study on Pamela Anderson and get the same
result!
Allan
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From: Allan Jones <ampj@tiac.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:56:14 -0500
Subject: Steering Wheel/Ign. Housing on 86CGT
I want to thank all the listers nice enough to reply quickly. I ended
up missing the stores(they close early on Sundays), but I appreciate it
anyhow. I will purchase a 24 mm socket tomorrow and let you know when my
baby is running again. I can't seem to coordinate anything during this
repair, so if there is something else I might run into while taking the
ignition switch housing off/apart, please let me know.
Thank You All Again,
Allan
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From: Heather & Jeff <hjr@buffnet.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:22:12 -0800
Subject: Re: 89 Turbo (driven?) Alternator
Igor,
Sorry for your alternator plight. I'm not very familiar with Bosch
alternators or their connections, but let me clear up a couple of
items.
1. The filter capacitor has no bearing on your problem. If it goes open,
you stand a chance of increased noise on the radio & stuff. If it goes
short, well, it won't be that way for long because it will blow like a
firecracker.
2. I doubt that your stator windings and diodes are bad. An alternator
is a three phase device; three sets of windings and three sets of
diodes. Usually if a diodes opens or shorts you lose one phase, and one
third the output. (Unless of course you have a catastrophic failure of
the entire diode bridge assembly; but this usually happens after a high
heat/output situation, not after starting the car after it sits.
3. The rotor resistance seems about normal. (most 5" alternators draw
3-5 amps on the field coil (rotor))
4. I don't remember whether Bosch alternators of that vintage have a
diode trio rotor power up scheme or not. If they do, this is likely
your problem. (Diode trio is a small pack of three diodes across each
of the three phases to provide power to the rotor; kind of an archaic
way of turning the alternator on)
4. Are you sure that the Fox actually is charging with the Audi reg? If
yours is not a trio-type alternator, then it really sounds to me like
you have a regulator/brush/field excitation problem.
Sorry, I don't have any good suggestions on replacement.
Good Luck!
Jeff
'88 80q
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From: Heather & Jeff <hjr@buffnet.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:30:53 -0800
Subject: Re: Windshield Wiper motor/suggestions needed.
Started up the '88 80q and heard a horrible racket coming from the
dash. Kind of a growling, plus the sound of relays clicking. Opened
the hood, and discovered the wiper motor was making the noise. I gave
the wiper switch a nudge, the noise stopped as the wipers made a
slowwwwwww move across the windshield. Now the wipers have only one
speed; slowwwwww. (plus I have to nudge the switch to get it to stop
growling.)
Obviously my wiper motor has bit the dust (or relay? or both?)
Anyway, has anyone tackled rebuilding their wiper motor? Or does
anyone have any low cost suggestions or sources?
TIA!
Jeff
'88 80q
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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:40:37 -0500
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quattro-digest Sunday, 16 February 1997 Volume 04 : Number 284
*
* Welcome to the digest version of the quattro list.
* See the end of the digest for unsubscribe info.
* In this issue:
Re: '89 200TQ alternator
Daytona 500--some Audi content
Re: Why Qwagons rule.
Drink driving...
Re: Love Bug Alert (travel advisory)
Re: Bombardier IItis...
Re: Driving With Cell Phones and Guitars
Stuff FS: free, cheap and.....
Power windows
more parts...
Why Qwagons rule.
Crank Bolt socket = 1 1/16"
Re: Socket size? for 86 CoupeGT
RE: 89 200 Turbo problems
Re: Last chance
Plug wire anatomy...
Re: Socket size? for 86 Coupe
NEED 5K blower motor help
Re: 89 200 Turbo problems
Re: Crank Bolt socket = 27MM
Re: CQ vs. S4
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From: boweb4p0@numen.elon.edu
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:23:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: '89 200TQ alternator
Igor,
I know it's hindsight, but a similar situation happened to me. When
moving from Cols, OH to Elol College, NC I cancelled my phone in Ohio,
and went into the customer on the move program. While driving down with
the phone still installed in the car, and without a service contract, I
was able to dial the Cusomer Service number (*611 for Cellular One) and
they were kind enough to connect me with AAA. Nice of them considering I
was not going to renew a contract with Cellular One.
Just a thought for next time. . .
- - -Bryan
_______________________________________________________________________
Bryan Bowen * Elon College, NC * 910.538.3702 * boweb4p0@numen.elon.edu
International Business Major/Spanish Minor
'86 CGT Comm. Ed. (deceased)
'84 GMC Starcraft Conversion Van (My Mom's OK)
Looking for that "priced right" Coupe Quattro
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From: trishab@interwebb.com (Trisha Blethen)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:57:49 -0800
Subject: Daytona 500--some Audi content
Although most of you are not interested......just wanted to comment that
the 123 finish and lineup across the finish line in honor of Rick
Hendrick by his team was very inspiring. Knowing all these guys from
working NASCAR and knowing Cravan (neighbors for a while).....it was a
sentimental sight.
I do think the best finish would have been if Dale Earnhardt could have
had his first victory at the 500. He and Jeff just went too high and
got in the marbles....not a nice place to be. The Earnhardt of a few
years back would have take Jeff out with him......he's mellowed out with
age, making him a true sportsman.
Thanks for letting me have the bandwidth....BTW, Audi
content.....several of the Hendrick team members drive Audis.
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From: Mark Badger <mark@steinberg.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:35:22 -0800
Subject: Re: Why Qwagons rule.
> > Herewith, I lay out why wagons are superior to the spacially
> > impaired sedans most of you listers pilot:
>
> Ever roll something heavy in the back?
>
> My wife...
i don't we want to know the details thanks phil....
...and i'm sure she wouldn't appreciate your allusion to her weight...
m
:-)
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From: tnas@euronet.nl (Tom Nas)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:56:32 +0100
Subject: Drink driving...
More on this:
As I live near an area of Holland chock-a-block with rich people (not too
near, I'm sorry to say) fast and expensive cars are a familiar sight here.
Last winter, one of the rich kids had been drinking rather too much. He'd
been showing to his friend how well he could control his Porsche Carrera
911 Turbo, and got up to such frightening speeds that his friend told him
to stop and let him get out. Not two minutes later, the Porsche-driving kid
wrapped his pride around a lamp-post, 3 metres(!) above ground level. He'd
been doing 250 km/h on a 80 km/h road, had been startled by a car coming
out of a driveway and lost control. The Porsche had hit the lamp-post on
the driver's door, almost breaking the car in two. The guy was dead before
the car had come to a halt. Two of my colleagues saw it happening from a
distance, and were quite shocked by the sight. The guy who got out has
probably been praying ever since...
Needless to say, although I love a beer, I stick to Perrier when I need to
drive.
Tom
_______________________________________________________________________
Tom Nas Zeist, The Netherlands
tnas@euronet.nl
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From: tnas@euronet.nl (Tom Nas)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:56:27 +0100
Subject: Re: Love Bug Alert (travel advisory)
Mike Veglia wrote:
>Don't recall the Sport q numbers. I do recall (a fuzzy recolection) a 200q at
>Talladega turning something like 217. Slaab just did some pretty impressive
>speed runs that were written about in a recent EC too. Guess it's time for a
>tuned A8!!! I know, I know...not gonna happen, but it is nice to dream.
How about the S8? will 340 hp be enough?
Tom
_______________________________________________________________________
Tom Nas Zeist, The Netherlands
tnas@euronet.nl
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From: tnas@euronet.nl (Tom Nas)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:56:21 +0100
Subject: Re: Bombardier IItis...
JDolan2109@aol.com wrote:
> Another thought that comes to mind is that the Bombardier Iltis military
> vehicle uses the VW Engine (petrol) and Audi quattro transmission. Anyone out
> there have experience with the Iltis?
I've photographed one in the parking lot in front of my house a couple of
months ago. Like most military vehicles, this is no great beauty. There are
a couple of ex-Army Iltises for sale here in Holland, but not a lot of
people seem to want them (Even though a Dutch car TV-show featured one some
time ago). Not a bad car, but no charisma like the Jeep or Land-Rover, with
ruggedness and quattro as its only redeeming features. It reminds me
somewhat of the 2-stroke DKW Munga Jeep, another ugly product (from what
later became Audi). Like the equally ugly Mercedes Gelaendewagen, it has
its fans.
Photographs (of mediocre quality due to late time of day) available.
HTH,
Tom.
_______________________________________________________________________
Tom Nas Zeist, The Netherlands
tnas@euronet.nl
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From: Huw Powell <human@nh.ultranet.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 18:08:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Driving With Cell Phones and Guitars
- - -- [ From: Huw Powell * EMC.Ver #3.1a ] --
>>involving car phones found that the risk of being involved in a car wreck
is as
>>high as having a blood alcohol level of 0.08.
>it's not that i'm disagreeing that cell phone use in a car distracts the
driver, of course it does. but to my mind, no more so that talking to a
passenger...when the prat phone rings, slow down, just as you should if you
are talking to someone else in the car...
Couldn't the same reasoning be applied to drinking and driving? After all,
appropriate cautions should allow for the impaired motor abilities... The
point is that an intense telephone conversation, like alcohol, can also
impair the drivers ability to recognize and compensate for the interference.
I believe talking on the phone can require more of your available
consciousness. There is a tendency to form an "image" of the other
conversant not necessary when they are in the car. Also the other party
can't see the traffic and suddenly be quiet when they see the driver's
attention is needed - they can't co-drive, giving you the slight benefit of
another set of eyes on the road, or yell "hey look out for that truck stupid
!" - unless of course they are in another car nearby!
I have found the worst thing I can while driving is to imagine I am playing
guitar - it uses up too many cognitive faculties to leave enough to keep an
image of the road ahead (and around) in my mind! That said, the cell phone
issue is silly. There are many things one must allow for while driving, by
going slower, not passing, generally paying more attention, etc. The
statistics should serve as no more than a warning - like that on drowsiness
inducing medications.
Why do I always perpetuate these non Audi threads?
Huw Powell
HUMAN Speakers
(insert irritating quasi-political quote here)
http://www.thebook.com/human-speakers
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From: Huw Powell <human@nh.ultranet.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 18:08:47 -0500
Subject: Stuff FS: free, cheap and.....
- - -- [ From: Huw Powell * EMC.Ver #3.1a ] --
OK, I've put in my "new" brown leather coupe seats (thank you Dave Lawson)
and it's beginning to get a little congested around here. So maybe I should
try to get some of the things I don't need into the hands of those could use
them.
Coupe door panels, gray velour, cut a bit for speakers at very front, no
pockets. Free to a good home if you reply before I go to the dump next.
85 4k(q) gray leather seats, fair condition, no tears. potential for heat.
All four pieces plus wiring harness with relays for heat. $300
coupe etc. A/C evaporator w/ needle sensor, removed when changing heater
core. I had already ruined my condenser and pump. $25
87 5ks etc. silver alloy wheels, 14 x 6 with center caps, with four nice 185
- - -70/14 tyres. generic all season radials with good tread. $300
4k/coupe snowflake 14 x 6 alloy wheels with center caps. $150
80's 5k 14 x 6 steel wheels $80, with Audi tin hubcaps, $125 (I still have
the whole 1980 automatic car, but who would need parts for that - I've never
seen a lister mention one!)
4k front seats, blue velour, $100
87 5ks just about everything - interior gray cloth (or is it velour?) body
panels (gray) switches, radio, etc etc.
several sets of quad rectangle headlights, $30/set
All plus shipping, reply to me, direct of course, if you're interested, have
questions, or want o make offers....
Thanks.
Huw Powell
HUMAN Speakers
(insert irritating quasi-political quote here)
http://www.thebook.com/human-speakers
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From: Huw Powell <human@nh.ultranet.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 18:09:05 -0500
Subject: Power windows
- - -- [ From: Huw Powell * EMC.Ver #3.1a ] --
Does anybody know how generic the motors and tracks etc. are on Audi power
windows before I start tearing into cars?
I want to power the windows in my 82 coupe and have available parts from an
80 5kt and an 87 5ks, plus one unknown one given to me by my neighbor. With
9 sets available I ought to be able to do this, right?
TIA
Huw Powell
HUMAN Speakers
(insert irritating quasi-political quote here)
http://www.thebook.com/human-speakers
- ------------------------------
From: Huw Powell <human@nh.ultranet.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 18:14:43 -0500
Subject: more parts...
- - -- [ From: Huw Powell * EMC.Ver #3.1a ] --
did I forget to mention I also have a complete exhaust system for an 82 or
so coupe? manifold in good shape, with OXS and CO tube, the only cruddy
part is the joint between the two mufflers, which is easy to fix nicely
while it's off the car. Offers?
Huw Powell
HUMAN Speakers
(insert irritating quasi-political quote here)
http://www.thebook.com/human-speakers
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From: quk@sievers.com (Phil Payne)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:10:18 GMT
Subject: Why Qwagons rule.
In message <33078BAA.4C01@steinberg.net> Mark Badger writes:
> > Ever roll something heavy in the back?
> >
> > My wife...
>
> i don't we want to know the details thanks phil....
>
> ...and i'm sure she wouldn't appreciate your allusion to her weight...
Nah. She'd sit on me.
(But the "something heavy", in this case, was a toolbox. A rotating car is
too small a space to share with a toolbox. End-over-end, in my case.)
- - --
Phil Payne
phil@sievers.com
Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
- ------------------------------
From: "Al Powell" <APOWELL@agcom.tamu.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:55:03 CDT
Subject: Crank Bolt socket = 1 1/16"
ejfluhr@austin.ibm.com (Fluhr) asked:
> To continue this thread, does anyone know prices and/or recommend a place
> to get the crank pulley lock & crank bolt socket?
Blaufergnugen (see web page) will rent you the crank pulley
lock....as soon as I return theirs. They also sent me the wrong
timing belt so I'm stalled on finishing my timing belt job. (NOTE:
for 1990 200 owners - there are TWO wimilg belts that year. The
change is chassis related, and a good parts guy will see it in his
listing...I got the wrong one.)
The crank pulley bolt socket is 1 and 1/16". I don't know the metric
size, but I garr-on-tee tht one fits. I bought mine at Sears. Also
note: since I am aware the interchange between SAE and metric is not
perfect on many sizes, I made sure to get a 6-point socket, NOT a 12-
point. Bet you can find one at a pawn shop cheaper than the $5.99 I
paid from Sneers.
> I have to replace the timing belt (and water pump, while I am at
it on my '85 Coupe. I plan on doing the job this spring, and want
to be prepared.
Do the idler, too. It's a press-fit into the front of the engine,
but judicious prying will get it out, without resorting to the
special Audi tool.
When you're in there, if you have any sign of oil leakage thru the
crank pulley seal (behind the pulley), pull it using the special tool
which I curently own - and for which I have an offer - but which will
be available somewhere on this list.
*.......................................................*
Al Powell, Ph.D. Voice: 409/845-2807
107 Reed McDonald Bldg. Fax: 409/862-1202
College Station, TX 77843
Http://agcomwww.tamu.edu/agcom/satellit/alpage.htm
*.......................................................*
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From: e6941tb@gnn.com
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:05:04 -0800
Subject: Re: Socket size? for 86 CoupeGT
Allan Jones wrote:
>
> Hi all listers,
> Does anybody out there have a Bentley handi right now for an'86 Coupe
> GT, or does anybody KNOW what size socket one needs to remove the
> steering wheel from an '86 Coupe GT?!? I've checked the archives and
> there are conflicting reports!?! I don't want to by several.
> Please Help, the sun's going down.
> Allan
On a 44_bodied Audi it's 24mm. I don't see why a Coupe would have a
different steering wheel/shaft diameter/number of splines.
Igor Kessel
'89 200TQ
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From: "Mike Miller" <JoMi@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 23:33:52 UT
Subject: RE: 89 200 Turbo problems
Dealer cost on a wastegate is about $900 and the kkk24 turbo is about $1900.
In reality, you can find parts much cheaper.
mike miller
91 200q
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From: owner-quattro@coimbra.ans.net on behalf of Fred Brown
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 1997 11:19 AM
To: quattro@coimbra.ans.net
Subject: 89 200 Turbo problems
I was hoping someone may have any suggestions. My '89 200T has recently
started losing power, the turbo seems to boost normally to about 1.2 bar
after that you can hear significant blowoff by the wastegate. The engine
also seems to surge, or bog down at this point. With 115k mi. on this car
is it fair to say that the turbo is dying, or could it simply be the
wastegate. If so does anyone know the estimated repair costs for this type
of problem??? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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From: savidesn@audvid.win.net (Darin Nederhoff)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:16:57
Subject: Re: Last chance
>Contact Fran=E7ois at (810)589-8176 by this TUESDAY. Cost $85.00 (includ=
>es
>insurance) plus Hotel(shouldn't be much). Send check made out to him (we=
>'re
>not that big a club yet) and he will send you the information packet. =20
>=20
> Francois Faloppa
> Ice Driving School
> 601 Hendrickson
> Clawson, MI 48017
Hey, isn't he the guy with the urQ and yellow CQ pictured in this
month's European Car? That name sounds familiar.
Darin
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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:26:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Plug wire anatomy...
Cough, cough, hackk, cough, wheez...
"spark plug wires are *how* much?..."
Now that I've BTDT, I'm getting devious. After all, this is rural Vermont,
not Oman or Switzerland. I'm sure that this has been dealt with before, but
my blessed little computer and that mega-junk server AOL, can't seem to bring
up anything too much as far as FAQ's and tech hints at the Quattro site. So
maybe you guys will have the patience to help me?
Since I'm short of funds, but not ingenuity, I'd like to fabricate a set of
wires myself. I've salvaged quite a collection of cap and plug ends, and will
reuse the best of the lot. The stumbling block is the crimped metal connector
that is afixed to the wire itself and then screws into the cap or plug
terminal. Is that piece available anywhere? If not, I'm tempted to remove
one, hammer it out flat, and use it as a template to fashion a stamp that
would produce just what I'm after. I'm sure I can come up with a slight
improvement or simplification to avoid any patent infringements. The price of
new wires is totally ludicrous and absurd!
One thing I did notice- all the wire sets I took apart had the same spark
plug end, part #401 160 (5K ohm). One set, from a VW Synchro, has pretty blue
ends at the cap end, so I'll most likely use them (ends only w/new wires),
just to 'brighten up' the engine bay a bit. The most interesting thing about
that wire set, though, is again the crimped piece. It is present at the Dist.
end, but absent at the plug end. The wire just screws onto the interior stud
of the plug terminal. (which explains a lot about proper removal of wires on
these! i.e.: don't remove wire from plug by pulling on wire). Experimenting,
I tried to replace that wire with one that had the crimped piece in place,
but the plug terminal would not accept it. Etternal wire diameter is
identical. What I seem to have are two plug terminal ends that are different
internally, but have the same part number. So, are there variations that use
the same part number? Maybe the fact that one set is from a VW and the other
from an Audi is the answer? The wire used in the odd VW set was manufactured
by Belden. Is that an OEM supplier?
What I wound up doing was taking apart the wires that had no crimped piece
at the plug end. I then trimmed 1/8" to remove corrosion/oxidation. A very
small amount of di-electric grease (available from Chrysler, maybe others)
was then put on the sides of the wire (only that part that actually enters
the plug terminal) for lubrication and sealing, and the wire was
re-assembled. And that's how it will stay until I find those little crimped
pieces...
Or is this all just a 'flare up' of cabin fever? If its absolutely
necessary that a new wire set be installed, there's a 'light show' that
starts here at dark and only costs 25 cents....
cheapo Jim in Vt. '89 80q
jdolan2109@aol.com
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From: Huw Powell <human@nh.ultranet.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 19:43:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Socket size? for 86 Coupe
- - -- [ From: Huw Powell * EMC.Ver #3.1a ] --
> does anybody KNOW what size socket one needs to remove the steering wheel
from an '86 Coupe GT?!?
According to the sheet of paper taped to my toolbox, the steering wheel nut
is 24 mm. For all the ones I've dealt with. My wheel came out of a later
model Coupe and went into my 82 just fine... so yours is probably the same.
Good luck!
Huw Powell
HUMAN Speakers
(insert irritating quasi-political quote here)
http://www.thebook.com/human-speakers
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From: MONYPT@aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:44:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: NEED 5K blower motor help
I know this subject has been beaten to death, but can anyone tell me where to
find , or relate to me the short cut method for changing the blower motor.
Also the cheapest place to get the motor? THANKS, Matt
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From: QSHIPQ@aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:51:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 89 200 Turbo problems
In a message dated 97-02-16 16:41:12 EST, you write:
<< Subj: Re: 89 200 Turbo problems
Date: 97-02-16 16:41:12 EST
From: lmulieri@zoo.uvm.edu (Louis A. Mulieri)
To: QSHIPQ@aol.com
CC: EBROWN-SD@postoffice.worldnet.att.net, quattro@coimbra.ans.net
Will the same thing happen if you loosen the oil filler cap?
Berthann
5000cstq, 125k and counting
>>
No, the car should stall ALWAYS when you pull the oil cap off.... Here is
the secret. The idle stabilizer circuit can compensate for the oil dipstick
pull, the engine will lose rpm, then the ISV will recover.... If there is
another leak (or you pull the oil cap) you have created too much of an air
leak, and the ISV can't compensate for it.... Car stalls
HTH
Scott
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From: QSHIPQ@aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:06:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Crank Bolt socket = 27MM
In a message dated 97-02-16 19:40:25 EST, you write:
<< Blaufergnugen (see web page) will rent you the crank pulley
lock....as soon as I return theirs. They also sent me the wrong
timing belt so I'm stalled on finishing my timing belt job. (NOTE:
for 1990 200 owners - there are TWO wimilg belts that year. The
change is chassis related, and a good parts guy will see it in his
listing...I got the wrong one.)
The crank pulley bolt socket is 1 and 1/16". I don't know the metric
size, but I garr-on-tee tht one fits. I bought mine at Sears. Also
note: since I am aware the interchange between SAE and metric is not
perfect on many sizes, I made sure to get a 6-point socket, NOT a 12-
point. Bet you can find one at a pawn shop cheaper than the $5.99 I
paid from Sneers.
> I have to replace the timing belt (and water pump, while I am at
it on my '85 Coupe. I plan on doing the job this spring, and want
to be prepared.
Do the idler, too. It's a press-fit into the front of the engine,
but judicious prying will get it out, without resorting to the
special Audi tool.
When you're in there, if you have any sign of oil leakage thru the
crank pulley seal (behind the pulley), pull it using the special tool
which I curently own - and for which I have an offer - but which will
be available somewhere on this list.
>>
THAT PART IS A 27MM SOCKET, SEARS AVAILABLE, Do not use the 1 1/16, the
torque you put on that bolt is VERY high, like in the 300ft/lb range, not
good for fudging sizes..... It's close in a 1 1/16, but hardly where you
want to be....
HTH
Scott
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From: Glenn Lawton <lawtonglenn@gsmai.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:12:08 -0600
Subject: Re: CQ vs. S4
Mark Nelson wrote:
> ...get a chance to drive a '90 or '91 CQ as well as an S4?...
Tortise
vs
Hare
Glenn
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