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quattro-digest Monday, 17 February 1997 Volume 04 : Number 291
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Re: Have I warped a rotor?
Re: 89 200 Turbo problems
RE: MPG with Mods
Re: Audi Toolbox
Re:93 100CSQW Prices
Audi Toolbox
car wanted
Re: ICU
mudflaps inquiry
Aux Gauge Location
Re: Audi Toolbox
Re: Last chance
Re: INFORMACION DE GASOLINAS
Thanks and a question (fwd)
TAP chip
Special tools for 20V
Re: '89 200TQ alternator
1986 urQ
mudflaps inquiry
Re: QCUSA: It is useful?
As long were on the topic of cell......
Re: Thanks and a question
Supertouring US in '97?
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From: mma@Rt66.com (Mark Aaldering)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:38:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Have I warped a rotor?
This sure sounds like Warped Rotors...I had this happen with the first
two sets of rotors on my 87 5KCSTQ before I went IA stage 1! And I
certainly didn't think I was doing anything particulary wrong...
=46inally I called Group 6 performance (regular advertiser in European
Car) and bought cross-drilled rotors for the front (only) about 2+
years ago =3D> No Warped Rotors! I'm running these with the dreaded
Slagmasters - and the braking is usually fine for me (I've only had
one interesting incident where I had to slow from 100+ and they didn't
stop as fast as my heart really needed them to...)
- - mark
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997 04:49:32 +0000 (GMT), you wrote:
>What are the symptoms of a warped brake rotor? Would they be pedal
>pulsations under moderate pressure?
>
>I am running OEM rotors with Metalmaster pads installed 1996-08-10 @
>108542 (currently at 117k and change). It seems to me that rotors =
should
>last longer than 8500 miles.
>
>What causes rotors to warp? Did I do something wrong in the brake
>job or am I just driving too hard? If it's the latter, should I go to
>cross-drilled rotors and if so from who? (It seems a bit silly to have
>drilled rotors in the front and drums in the back but if that's what
>it takes...)
>--=20
>Shields.
>
Mark Aaldering
mma@rt66.com
Mark.Aaldering@abq.sc.philips.com
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From: Raudi83TQ@aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:16:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 89 200 Turbo problems
In looking for vacuum leaks to cure wandering idle and other malidies, I
found that replacing the $0.50 rubber seal in the oil cap is well worth the
cost.
John
83 urq
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From: "Dupree, Robert A." <rdupree@sidley.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 08:32:00 PST
Subject: RE: MPG with Mods
As I recall, I am getting about 240 miles in the first half of the tank.
I haven't acutally run it past that point because the gas prices here
suck so I fill up before hitting Illinois. How do I adjust it for a
correct reading? Let me see... Invite Scott over for a few beers...
:)
Bob Dupree
-----Original Message-----
From: QSHIPQ [SMTP:QSHIPQ@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 1997 1:36 AM
To: rdupree
Cc: quattro
Subject: Re: MPG with Mods
In a message dated 97-02-17 00:12:50 EST, you write:
<< All, as rediculous as this sounds I am now getting better gas mileage
than I have EVER gotten with this car. With the mixture set correctly
(Thanks PDQSHIP), and then home-grown ECU mod, I am now seeing 37 mpg on
the higway with the cruise set at 72 mph. Strangely enough though when
I
back it down to 68-70mph range, the mileage is cut to about 35 mpg. I
am
assuming that this is due to the mixture setting at a given RPM range un
the ECU lookup table. Or could it be more due to the gearing of the
car... Maybe WARATAP's 4.11's would help :) or Graydon's EFI or
PDQSHIP's RS-2, all I need is MONEY!
>>
Before graydon and I can spread too much of this syrup on our pancakes,
be
advised, Mr. Bob, that the dash guage accuracy might need some
adjustment....
Go the old fashioned way of the miles vs gallons, I think your at least
10
high.... There's an adjustment for that too....
Scott
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From: QSHIPQ@aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:34:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Audi Toolbox
In a message dated 97-02-17 06:13:20 EST, you write:
<< We seem to have parallel discussions about required sockets - 24mm for the
steering wheel, 27mm up front.
Has anyone ever prepared a list of the sizes you _do_ find on Audis? The
sizes
between 24mm and 27mm are exotica anyway, but I do have them. Is it worth
carrying them in the toolbox or should I leave them on the workshop shelf?
-- >>
After wrenching a couple of dozen audis over the years, the toolbox should
have the following Sockets/wrenches
* 36mm - Shelf
* 30mm - Shelf
* 27mm - Shelf - Balancer
* 24mm - Shelf - Steering
* 22mm - Shelf - O2 - Oil lines
* Dremel tool (exhaust work) - cutoff wheels
TOOLBOX:
* 19mm X 2 (third most common)
* 17mm X 2 (second most common)
* 16mm (ball joint retaining nut only)
* 15mm
* 14mm (rarely) - fuel
* 13mm X 3 (most common)
* 12mm (rarely) - fuel
* 11mm (brakes)
* 10mm X 2
* 8mm
* 7mm (brake bleed)
* 6mm (hose clamps)
* 10mm triple square (driveshafts)
* 3mm T handle hex (CO)
* 5, 5.5, 6, 8, 10mm hex socket set, and long hex wrench set
* 6mm hex wrench with cutoff shortened arm (clutch master)
1/2 drive torque wrench
3/8 drive beam torque wrench (inch pounds)
1/2 breaker bar
1/2 swivel head socket
3/8 swivel head socket (makes those turbo nuts actually easy to remove)
Wire brushes brass and steel drill type (cleaning threads)
Assorted screwdrivers
Vice Grips
Channel Loks
Small hammer (big breaks things)
Needle nose pliers
Side cutters
Assortment of zip-ties
Just did a front driver trans marathon swap (15hours) last SAT, this list is
pretty complete... The 17mm never gets back to the tool box, neither does
the 13mm....
HTH
Scott
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From: "Paul E. Rivera" <rivera@deltanet.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:53:08 -0800
Subject: Re:93 100CSQW Prices
Can anyone help me with the goin' price for a 1993 100 CS Quattro Wagon?
This one has 38K MIles, Pearl, leather, cold weather, etc.
Sure is a slug for speed, but it is in perfect shape (not even door
dings). They are asking 21K.
Whaddaya Think?
Thanks
Paul Rivera
90 V8
1.8TQ on order
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From: Phil@sievers.com (Phil Payne)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:53:51 GMT
Subject: Audi Toolbox
In message <970217092908_508297408@emout11.mail.aol.com> QSHIPQ@aol.com writes:
> * Dremel tool (exhaust work) - cutoff wheels
Is that what I call an "angle grinder"?
> * 10mm triple square (driveshafts)
Triple square for head bolts?
> * 6mm hex wrench with cutoff shortened arm (clutch master)
Don't remember using one when I switched mine out. LHD only?
This would be a good thing for someone's home pages. Anyone finds they
need soething that isn't on it - email the keeper.
- --
Phil Payne
Phone: +44 385302803 Fax: +44 1536723021 CIS: 100012,1660
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From: "Paul C. Waterloo" <74543.407@compuserve.com>
Date: 17 Feb 97 10:01:44 EST
Subject: car wanted
>I just re-subscribed to the list because I am in the market for a new (used)
car. I >want an Audi and have $15k or less to spend. does anyone have a car for
sale, or >advice on the best car for this price?
No question, a 91 200q sedan....very nice car, can easily be had for 15K....I
don't think you can get a bigger bang for the buck.....you will absolutely love
this car!
Paul
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Paul Waterloo
Riverside, IL
91 200q
EMAIL: 74543.407@compuserve.com
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From: QSHIPQ@aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:03:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: ICU
In a message dated 97-02-17 09:07:43 EST, you write:
<< It took that bolt off, it will put it back on. Probably took more
torque to break it loose than it will to restore the 258- lbs/ft
specified. (Which will be hyper-accurately administered by using a
4-foot pipe on a 1/2" breaker bar, and exerting precisely 64.5 lbs/ft
of torque at the pipe tne using my calibrated biceps....math may not
have been my strong suit, but I know that a few pounds +/- isn't
gonna make that bolt break.)
>>
Ok, but whacking a bolt with that kind of torque (it's 258ft lbs a couple of
feet from the bolt), I'd sure want the EXACT socket, not denying a 1 1/16
won't work, you can repair an audi with all SAE sockets if you really wanted
to. The point is, if you plan on doing any of these projects again, spend
some time to outfit the toolbox with the correct toys.... None of this stuff
is really that expensive (specialty tools the exception). That old adage:
"Do it right the first time," pretty much guarantees a second chance to just
doing it. Looking at that front bolt, I'm not sure I'd want to be the one
explaining to ANYONE why I had to buy a new crank cuz the bolt is hacked...
I used to wrench just to make things work. As I get older (and wiser to
mistakes), I find less breaks and more correct work is done with the correct
toys in thy hand. A great excuse to pamper oneself with a 10$ socket....
Critical components on an audi should get nothing less than proper treatment
from the doctor in you.
My $10 @ current peso
Scott
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From: "J. Smethers" <smethers@fast.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:09:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: mudflaps inquiry
Quattro-philes,
I saw an 86 or 87 4KQ yesterday with "Audi" mudflaps. They were black with
the Audi logo on them. They looked pretty good on the Alpine White exterior
(same as mine). I have been unable to find these beasts (dealer - obsolete,
Shokan - don't carry) and was wondering if anyone had ideas on where I could
find them. Does someone know a more current model whose mudflaps will fit
into the 4K wheelwells without a whole lot of pain? It's either this route,
or I pick up the ones with Yosemite Sam on them from Pep Boys. 'Cause my
car is dirty the day after I wash it. Thanks in advance.
Regards, Jeffrey Smethers
smethers@fast.net
BMW CCA #134676
______ ________
o/_______\o o/________\o
(oo 00 oo) (O oooo O)
()------() ()--------()
'84 318i '86 4KCSQ
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From: "Dupree, Robert A." <rdupree@sidley.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 09:13:00 PST
Subject: Aux Gauge Location
Last night while driving with renewed vigor and enthusiasm about my Audi
I decided that I would really like a more comprehensive engine monitoring
setup. Having been spoiled by what is available in the homebuilt
aircraft environment as for as guage packages I began looking around for
a large mounting point, and as you all know there are no cosmetically
nice spots. So with my new VDO Turbo guage in hand as a size reference I
looked around the rest of the dash. What I would like to know is what is
behing the dash pad that is under the turn / light stalks. There is a 2
inch'ish area that would be perfect for this first guage. Thoughts?
Bob Dupree
'87 5000CS Quattro 1.95bar
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From: Dan Simoes <dans@ans.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:17:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Audi Toolbox
> > * Dremel tool (exhaust work) - cutoff wheels
>
> Is that what I call an "angle grinder"?
A Dremel is a high speed rotary tool that accepts various attachments
such as small cutting wheels, drills, grinding stones, etc. There
is also a flexible shaft attachment you can use to get into tight
spots. It's just the thing for cutting off rounded bolts, slicing,
dicing, etc.
> > * 6mm hex wrench with cutoff shortened arm (clutch master)
>
> Don't remember using one when I switched mine out. LHD only?
Also the same for the clutch slave I think.
> This would be a good thing for someone's home pages. Anyone finds they
> need soething that isn't on it - email the keeper.
I'll add it to the as-yet-unavailable tech pages.
| Dan |
- --
Dan Simoes dans@ans.net
ANS http://coimbra.ans.net/dans.html
100 Clearbrook Road (914) 789-5378 (voice)
Elmsford, NY 10523 (914) 789-5310 (fax)
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From: WARATAP@aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:19:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Last chance
In a message dated 97-02-16 19:10:58 EST, savidesn@audvid.win.net (Darin
Nederhoff) writes:
<<
> Francois Faloppa
> Ice Driving School
> 601 Hendrickson
> Clawson, MI 48017
Hey, isn't he the guy with the urQ and yellow CQ pictured in this
month's European Car? That name sounds familiar.
>>
Yep, sharp eye! Page 145 of the April issue. But he's sold the yellow CQ
and is waiting to take delivery (more correctly fly down and pick up) through
Ivor at T.A.P. something really special. Will let you know when he gets it.
- -Ingo
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From: Dan Simoes <dans@ans.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:37:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: INFORMACION DE GASOLINAS
> BUENOS DIAS TENGO UN AUDI COUPE 20V QUATTRO ES DEL AQO 1989.
> NO TIENE CATALIZADOR ,? PUEDO PONERLE GASOLINA SIN PLOMO?
> SI PUEDO EN QUE PROPORCION.
> GRACIAS POR ANTICIPADO Y UN SALUDO PARA TODO EL EQUIPO.
yo creio que si. mas porque? recomendo contactar Audi en Espana.
[got this in Spanish guys. He wants to know if he can run unleaded
gas in a 90 20v coupeq with no cat. I think so, but any comments?]
| Dan |
- --
Dan Simoes dans@ans.net
ANS http://coimbra.ans.net/dans.html
100 Clearbrook Road (914) 789-5378 (voice)
Elmsford, NY 10523 (914) 789-5310 (fax)
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From: Dan Simoes <dans@ans.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:40:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Thanks and a question (fwd)
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