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Re: quattro-digest V4 #354



HELLO AUDI FANS! I don't know if this is screened,
but I just wanted the AUDI world to know that their
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work on AUDI 5KTQ!
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 I like 10v motors and 5k's.
 My personal car a 311hp 5KTQ with 17by8 DTM
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MAGAZINE JUNE ISSUE WHICH COMES OUT 
MAY 1ST IN NEW YORK!!!!!  
 
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> From: owner-quattro-digest@coimbra.ans.net
> To: quattro-digest@coimbra.ans.net
> Subject: quattro-digest V4 #354
> Date: Tuesday, February 25, 1997 5:20 PM
> 
> 
> quattro-digest           Tuesday, 25 February 1997     Volume 04 : Number
354
> 
> *
> *  Welcome to the digest version of the quattro list.
> *  See the end of the digest for unsubscribe info.
> *  In this issue:
> alloy wheels
> RE: chipped S4
> RE: chipped S4
> Re: Rescue dogs - no Audi content
> Sold 911S
> '91 200TQ performance 
> chipped S4
> Re: apples and oranges
> Re: Consumer Reports
> Re: 86 Treser super 5000 TQ
> RE: Replacing 96 A4 armrests....
> S4 chipped message to 
> The T.A.P. experience (kinda long)
> RE: chipped S4
> Stop the Insanity!
> Miniscule Audi Content - Trip to the Fatherland!
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From: degournay <Patrice.Degournay@wanadoo.fr>
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:36:43 +0100
> Subject: alloy wheels
> 
> Hey, all you Ur-Quattro owners,
> 
> Does anybody know if a BBS alloy wheels site exists on the WWW ? I have 
> just found one about TSW .
> Thank you ; allways a great interest for the list, it should exist the 
> same in France ...where there are many quattro owners .
> 
> Patrice
> 85 Ur-Q
> 85 100 CS Q (near 400 k Km)
> 89 200 Q
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: "Jeff Wain" <JeffWain@msn.com>
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 20:37:16 UT
> Subject: RE: chipped S4
> 
> Yes I think I do. The car was run up to full power on a 4 wheel rolling
road 
> both before and after the fitting of the chip. The engine print out show
the 
> BHP between the two and since I know the starting point (230) the gain in

> charted power gives me the end point to a few BHP. The result was about
296.
> hope that helps. Certainly no doubt about the road result.
> Jeff
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Peter Henriksen <peterhe@microsoft.com>
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:51:28 -0800
> Subject: RE: chipped S4
> 
> I wish I could get to an AWD-capable dyno around here. I have a GTech,
> but have yet to find out what it says about hp at the wheels for my car.
> 
> You mentioned a different wastegate as well. Do you know what they
> modified there and why?
> 
> Thanks for the other info.
> 
> BTW, Superchips are available here in the States as well.
> - - peter, peterhe@microsoft.com, http://www.GeoCities.com/MotorCity/1001
>   issaquah, wa, usa
>   91 200qw
>   94 acura legend gs
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:	Jeff Wain [SMTP:JeffWain@msn.com]
> >Sent:	Tuesday, February 25, 1997 12:37 PM
> >To:	Peter Henriksen
> >Cc:	quattro@coimbra.ans.net
> >Subject:	RE: chipped S4
> >
> >Yes I think I do. The car was run up to full power on a 4 wheel rolling
road 
> >both before and after the fitting of the chip. The engine print out show
the 
> >BHP between the two and since I know the starting point (230) the gain
in 
> >charted power gives me the end point to a few BHP. The result was about
296.
> >hope that helps. Certainly no doubt about the road result.
> >Jeff
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: dan_masi@MENTORG.COM (Dan Masi)
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 15:56:11 EST
> Subject: Re: Rescue dogs - no Audi content
> 
> On Feb 25,  3:03pm, Mark Quinn/HNS wrote:
> > Subject: RE: Rescue dogs - no Audi content
> > Robert Myers writes:
> >
> > >If anyone might be interested in having some nice
> > >dogs here is an opportunity.  These dogs are "Alaskan
> > >Huskies" - that is, mixed breeds with a lot of Siberian
> > >Husky in the mix - and should make nice pets.
> >
> > WARNING - WARNING - WARNING:  These dogs may
> > well be 'nice' but will only be 'nice pets' for certain specific
> > households.  PLEASE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE IN FOR!!
> 
> Oh, my.  Well, the thread may not have any Audi content, but
> since all dogs are "quattro", I'm gonna chime in here.
> 
> Mark, I agree completely and totally with the paragraph
> above.  It does sound as though the owner will be discriminating
> in finding a home for these dogs, though.
> 
> > One set
> > of characteristics is true for ALL of these dogs:
> >  - They are very friendly & loving - great with kids...
> >  - They are virtually untrainable.  They won't come
> >     when called, roll over, beg etc (unless food's
> >     involved - when they become VERY trainable).
> 
> While breeds and breed groups do share some basic generalizable
> characteristics, I strongly disagree with these.  The
> "virtually untrainable" just ain't so.  I've got some experience
> with Flat-Coated Retrievers, and as far as trainability, I'll
> bet that there's quite a few more UDX huskies around than there
> are flatties...
> 
> The comment about being great with kids is probably a decent
> generalization, but I just wanted to point out that with rescue
> dogs, you generally don't know what you're getting.  As nice an
> idea as it is (and I've owned a rescue Flattie myself), a rescue
> situation should *never* be approached with such generalizations
> in mind.  Individual dogs need to be evaluated by persons
> with both experience in the breed, and with some knowledge of
> the prospective owners' situations.
> 
> >  - Anything furry and smaller than they are is food.
> >    They'll KILL cats...
> 
> Oh, is it tempting to say something "funny" here....
> 
> Dan Masi
> '96 A4Q
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: meck@hutton.net (Jon Meckem)
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:08:04 -0500
> Subject: Sold 911S
> 
> Well, I just sold my long time toy, a 1973 911S.... A very sad day.  On
the
> bright side, I now have cash to help me find a good deal on an 87-91
Turbo
> Quattro Sedan.   If anyone runs across a good deal, please let me know.
> 
> Jon
> 
> Porscheless
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Rob Winchell <rbw@matadorsw.com>
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:10:46 -0500
> Subject: '91 200TQ performance 
> 
> Does anyone have a source for this data? I'm looking for HP/torque, but
also 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Phil@sievers.com (Phil Payne)
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:30:45 GMT
> Subject: chipped S4
> 
> In message
<c=US%a=_%p=msft%l=RED-84-MSG-970225211220Z-3376@INET-04-IMC.microsoft.com>
Peter Henriksen writes:
> 
> >> And if you ran from Audi Sport (UK) to Superchips in the pouring rain
you
> >> wouldn't get wet.   They're right across the street.
> 
> > Do they somehow work together? Just curious to see if there's some sort
> > of implicit sanctioning by Audi Sport UK here...
> 
> No, I don't think so.  My impression of Audi Sport is that it's a kind
> of specialist dealer for Audi Sport in Germany.  They had no
> fabrication facilities, though in that part of the world precision
> light engineering services are easy to contract out.
> 
> - --
>  Phil Payne
> 
>  Phone: +44 385302803  Fax: +44 1536723021  CIS: 100012,1660
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: STEADIRIC@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:38:59 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: apples and oranges
> 
> >>I dunno if I'd call the testers at CR "Capable engineers"  Several of 
> >>their tester came through a Skip Barber that I was teaching at... These

> >>folks (3 guys and a gal) were, ummmmm inept comes to mind. 2 of the
four 
> >>could not shift a manual gearbox.
> >>
> >Ones ability (or lack thereof) to drive well is rarely if ever a
reflection
> >of their competence in their chosen careers (unless, of course, they are
> >driving instructors/racers/test drivers/etc.).
> >
> >It goes both ways too.  I've been driving manual tranny's for about 15
> >years -- couldn't design one if my life depended on it.
> >
> >
> >No flame, just pointing out one of life's little inconsistencies.
> 
> The point that I was making was, these people are supposed to know what 
> they are doing when they test a car and since there are many cars that 
> come with manual gearbox's only how can they fairly test these cars?  
> Also if your going to be called a "Test Driver" then you better know how 
> to test ALL cars......
> 
> 
> Later!
> 
> 
> Eric Fletcher S.O.C.
> '87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B
> St. Louis, MO
> 
> STEADIRIC@aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: STEADIRIC@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:40:36 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: Consumer Reports
> 
> >Geez, I dunno Eric, my Dad's a near engineering genius, many patents, so
> >on, so forth;.....he's
> >a terrible driver though...always has been.  Not sure what the
correlation
> >is here.  You don't have to be a great driver to be a great engineer. 
In
> >fact, if your refridgerator doesn't burn up tonight and you're happy
that
> >our some of our servicemen were not irradiated to death today, you can
> >thank my Dad, the terrible driver.
> 
> The original post stated that the CR guys are "Capable Engineers"  I was 
> stating that they are inept test drivers.
> 
> BTW since my deep freeze that I store Carbon Fiber Pre-preg in died 
> today, I can thank your dad?
> 
> 
> Later!
> 
> 
> Eric Fletcher S.O.C.
> '87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B
> St. Louis, MO
> 
> STEADIRIC@aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: STEADIRIC@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:42:20 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: 86 Treser super 5000 TQ
> 
> >It has 142.5K on it, and I'd rather not part it out. I would let it go
at
> >$4500, or as close to it as possible. The body is not pristine, but it
still
> >runs strong. It just needs 
> >TLC. I will miss it when its gone.
> 
> Is it me or is that a bit steep for a '86 Tresser kit (Fugly!) or not?
> 
> 
> 
> Later!
> 
> 
> Eric Fletcher S.O.C.
> '87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B
> St. Louis, MO
> 
> STEADIRIC@aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: merlin <merlin@ameritech.net>
> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:13:42 -0500
> Subject: RE: Replacing 96 A4 armrests....
> 
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> First of all, you cannot just order only the armrests...you have to =
> order the entire door panel at $367.00 apiece...however, if you're up to
=
> it, you can remove your door panel and melt the armrest out...you can =
> then peel off the offending cloth material and replace it with anything =
> you like...
> hope this helps...
> merlin
> 96 A4q (with leather armrests)
> 
> - ----------
> From:  Ali A. Bukhari[SMTP:aab1@acpub.duke.edu]
> Sent:  Monday, February 24, 1997 5:00 PM
> To:  'quattro@coimbra.ans.net'
> Subject:  Replacing 96 A4 armrests....
> 
> I really hate the fact that the armrests on my 96
> A4 are cloth. I guess Audi did too since the 97s=20
> have leather armrests (2.8s at least).=20
> 
> I was just wondering if it is possible to replace
> my 96 cloth armrests (the 4 on the doors and maybe
> also the top of the center armrest between the driver
> and passenger) with the 97 leather variety through a
> simple swap. What I'm trying to say is, if I ordered
> 97 A4 leather armrest consoles, would they fit onto=20
> my 96 A4 with no hassles? Did Audi change the design
> of the armrests at all for 97 (besides obviously making
> them leather).
> 
> Anyone have any thoughts on this or, possibly, a better
> replacement for the cloth armrests (yech!)?
> 
> Any comments/help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ali.
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> ------------------------------
> 
> From: "Jeff Wain" <JeffWain@msn.com>
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 22:00:53 UT
> Subject: S4 chipped message to 
> 
> Avrum Belzer asked about my chipped S4 but my reply has been returned
twice as 
> undeliverable. Please see reply in list
> sorry, Jeff
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: SOP8920@Siena.edu
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:12:07 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: The T.A.P. experience (kinda long)
> 
> Hi folks,
>    I just came back from a vacation down South. We had originally planned
to
> take my parent's Rv but were scared off by it's low fuel efficieny. So,
instead
> of the Rv, we drove my Q! 
>    We  planned a visit to T.A.P. while we were in Florida. After two days
in
> Pensacola, at the Gulf Islands Nat'l Seashore, we bid farwell and headed
down
> the West Coast of Florida. 
>    Arriving in Homosassa FL well after dark, I stopped and asked
directions for
> finding TAP from a gas station attendant. He had NEVER heard of it. A
quick
> glance in the phone book yielded no results either.
>    Finally, going simply on the directions given from the list, we took a
right
> turn off of 19 South (across from the Flea market) and pulled into an
> industrial park. At this point, me and my roadtrip buddy were exhausted
and
> almost delirious. The voyage down the country to FL, with visions of
> little German Gnomes working on Audis in their Lederhosen had become a
> pilgrimage. And then.. FINALLY...we were there! 
>     What we found was a plain blue building, two garage-doorways to it,
and the
> words TOTAL PERFORMANCE written on the front. No Audis in sight. None at
all...
> I walked to the front door, and there was a small sign that said T.A.P.
> I looked inside the glass door, and the only clue that this shop had
ANYTHING
> to do with Audis (besides the sign) was a SCCA Audi Poster very similiar
to the
> one I have hanging in my bedroom. Hmm.....
>      "THIS is T.A.P.??"
>     Okay.. sure it was after hours, we were exhausted, and had
anticipated much
> more (little german gnomes in lederhosen). 
> My Road-trip pal was ready to strangle me (he owns a mustang). To really
> understand what it felt like, you have to realize that (a) we are college
> students (b) It was something like 11pm (c) we had just driven for 8-9
hours
> and (d) we didn't have a place to sleep. 
>      For a few minutes, we considered pitching the tent right there on
Ivor's
> front lawn. However, the thought of landing in Jail in the middle of
nowhere
> wasn't too appealing to us. So.. we spent the next several hours arguing
over
> what the heck we should do, while sipping coffee at Perkins in Port
Richey.
>      Eventually, we realized that we could either sleep in the car or get
a
> hotel room. Reality dawned on us, and we headed over to the Day's inn. 
>      The next morning, we drove back to T.A.P.
> Miracle of Miracles!! What a incognito shop! Tap was in Stealth.
> 
> Right outside the shop now sat a 1997 Pearl White A4T, covered in massive
> T.A.P. racing regalia. The drool started, and would  continue for hours.
> This vehicle had gorgeous work done to it.. beautiful large diameter
wheels
> (17"?), drilled rotors, metallic-red brake callipers. We peeked inside..
a
> slush-box! What was that??
>  
> So.. we timidly stepped inside where we were greeted by Anita and soon by
Ivor
> himself. What a amazing operation the two of them run out there. He was
very
> friendly and spent probably a good hour just chatting with us about the
work he
> does. I wish I had a tape recorder for the things he said, because It was
> dream-like to me. I believe I was at least mesmorized if not actually
> hypnotized.
> 
> The A4T outside actually belonged to AUDI! They had loaned it to him and
he had
> put on all his own stuff. European Car had just been there to do a
photo=shoot
> of the monster. It had a ton of work done to it. I believe Ivor even
mentioned
> something about putting it on the lift so EC could photograph the exhaust
> system modifications.
> 
> He showed us around the garage.. in one corner was a mechanic taking the
head
> off of an S6 that had just arrived in from Michigan. "That's the one that
ran
> in 'One Lap' this year.. he wants 450hp this year.."
> 
> In another corner, a jet black S2 that had 6K worth of
cosmetic,mechanical, and
> electrical modifications to it... GORGEOUS..!
> 
> He had a couple of 5Ks, that were in various states of work. Two were for
sale!
> One of my friends is currently working on buying one of them.
> The entire garage looked so clean to me.. and according to Ivor, it was
> disgustingly filthy. He said that they had a break-in, and some scoundrel
ran
> off with all his tools! 
> 
> While we were talking, Anita comes out and tells Ivor that he has a call
from
> the Phillipines. Ivor runs over and a few minutes later, a white
fiberglass(?)
> hood was on it's way out the door.
> 
> "Ivor, I think I'm ready. Here is my credit card.."
> 
> And he handed me some tools.... out came the wastegate spring and the
Mac-11...
> in went a massaged computer and a stiffer wastegate spring...
> 
> OUCH! said the credit card!! ($360)
> 
> He claimes that the modification will produce 65+ horsepower on my Q.
After
> driving it.. I believe it! What an amazing difference. Unfortunately, the
mod
> has just made the poor shape that the suspension and brakes are in even
more
> apparent. As soon as the weather is warm enough.. I'll be putting in a
new
> Bomb. As soon as I can scape the cash.. I'll call Eric and put on the
> Steadi-kit. 
> 
> Anyway... we took 7 or eight shots of the event. If somebody wants
pictures of
> TAP for a webpage or something, let me know and I'll send them to you.  
> If you ever go there after hours, don't expect much. Ivor puts everything
away
> in the shop at night, including the cars.. 
> 
> 
> I must say that I agree with Igor about the chip&boost upgrade package..
it is
> the best money I've spent on the car. As for those of you in the market
for an
> A4 turbo... he has modifications to bring up the horsepower all the way
up to
> 420 hp!!! Unbelievable.
> 
> Ivor handed me back my old spring and the old chip from the ECU. The old
chip
> even came in a little black box with a tap sticker on it. Nice momento.
> Anyway.. I had a VERY pleasant T.A.P. experience. YMMV.
> 
>                                -Osman Parvez
>                                 89 200q (155K miles) 
>                                 Siena College
>                                 Albany NY
> 
> P.S. Ivor said that it wouldn't have surprised him to find some Audi
fanatics
> camped on his front lawn. 
> 
> BTW: Fuel Economy did suffer slightly after the modification, but it
wasn't too
> bad at all and more due to my  HEAVY right foot while the letters T.A.P.
> rumbled through my head.
>                              
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: "Jeff Wain" <JeffWain@msn.com>
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 22:12:38 UT
> Subject: RE: chipped S4
> 
> They changed the Audi fixed open setting for the waste gate for an
adjustable 
> one from Superchip to allow higher charge pressures into the cylinders.
That 
> part took 5 mins and looks the same under the hood as before to all but
the 
> very knowing in these matters. They then adjust the boost pressure in 
> accordance with the instructions from Superchip.
> Jeff
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Bob Davis <bob@segNET.COM>
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:16:37 -0500
> Subject: Stop the Insanity!
> 
> When the (assumed) newbie replied to a digest without trimming it down to
> something that would be read, I held my fingers, counted to ten, and let
> it go.  I figured that there were others out there who probably would
> have a pre-cooked message to send to this poor, mis-guided neophyte that
> would get the job done and do it politely (or not, I don't really 
> care).
> 
> When that faux-pas is replied to in a similarly un-edited fashion though,
> I have to write something.  For all of you not around during the last
> round of "trim your posts" tirades, <italic> </italic>I have two little
> suggestions.
> 
> 	Do NOT include an entire digest in your posts.
> 
> 	Include ONLY the relevant bits of the post you are replying to.
> 
> 
> Save us all the aggravation of wading through a bunch of stuff we've all
> read before to get to what you've written.  I, for one, will delete the
> message without reading any of it.  Most of those on the list will do
> likewise.
> 
> 
> Please, keep your posts short and to the point.  I'm trying to help you. 

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Davis		SEG Network Technologies, Inc.
> 
> bob@segNET.com	Suite 206/208, The Nugget Building
> 
> V: 603.643.5883	Hanover, NH 03755 USA
> 
> F: 603.643.9854	http://www.segNET.com
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Eric Renneisen <renneie@hlthsrc.com>
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:17:43 -0500
> Subject: Miniscule Audi Content - Trip to the Fatherland!
> 
> O.K. guys and gals, excuse the BW.
> 
> I'm traveling to the old country during the first week of April, and I'm 
> soliciting any help/advice/tips that anyone can share.  I haven't nailed 
> down many of the details yet, but here is the preliminary plan:
> 
> Travel/sightsee/goof-off from 03-29 through 04-04.
> Destinations include western & southern Germany, eastern France, 
> the Netherlands, Belgium, and possibly Switzerland. (yeah, right!)
> 
> I'm looking for any info ya got, but especially transportation methods, 
> cheap places to stay (no communes, please), sites not to be missed, 
> stuff to avoid, good eats and drinks, etc.  Any listers want to get 
> together?
> 
> Required content: If I rent a car, I'll try to find one with 4 rings on
the 
> grille.  Also, I'm going to bring back as much Audi contraband as I can. 

> I may even be able to talk my GF into taking the factory tour at
Ingolstadt!
> 
> TIA
> 
> Eric Renneisen
> '90 CQ 20V  -  my 'running-iron'
> Chattanooga, TN
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
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