http://www.swcp.com/~zsprings/horch.htm is where there is an image of a 1938 853A Horch. The html, graphics and flashing text absolutely the worst. If you can hold your nose long enough to let the image load, you might get to see a bit of Audi history. JPalmer 88 5ksquattro 97 A41.8tquattro (On a boat, I hope)